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To: don-o

I did not find any specific caliber information. I did see a lot of “bullet fragments” listed. This tends to show up in high velocity rounds that shatter upon impact. This is NOT consistent with low velocity pistol rounds. It MIGHT be possible should every one be using fragmented rounds.

Also of concern is the fact that there are not powder burns. This would indicate that the shots were made from at least 5 to 7 feet away.

All in all, more questions and no improvement in the understanding of what actually happened.


4 posted on 08/18/2015 8:37:33 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Many cops use blue rounds, frag rounds, etc.

Civilians tend to use steel jackets or lead rounds, and the occasional hollow-point.


5 posted on 08/18/2015 8:46:12 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: taxcontrol

Also, if most of the shots are to the head and neck, to me that implies a trained shooter with a rifle. Most in-close gun battles with pistols tend to be center-mass shots - stomach or chest.


7 posted on 08/18/2015 8:59:09 AM PDT by itzmygun (Elitism + hatred of mankind = LIBERALISM)
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To: taxcontrol
All in all, more questions and no improvement in the understanding of what actually happened.

What actually happened: during a scene where many armed police were present and nine motorcycle enthusiasts were shot dead, 117 people with zero prior arrest or criminal records were kidnapped at gunpoint by police, held hostage for a minimum of two weeks on million-dollar ransom, and made to pay thousands of dollars in order to return to their normal lives, jobs, professional/financial/family obligations, etc.

For any and all who care to do a minimum of looking at FACTS -- not opinions, but FACTS -- that is an excellent understanding of what really happened.

11 posted on 08/18/2015 9:17:46 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is pretend. You can only vote "for.")
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To: taxcontrol
Correction:

What actually happened: during a scene at a public restaurant where many armed police were present and nine motorcycle enthusiasts were shot dead, 117 people with zero prior arrest or criminal records were kidnapped at gunpoint by police, held hostage for a minimum of two weeks on million-dollar ransom, and made to pay thousands of dollars in order to return to their normal lives, jobs, professional/financial/family obligations, etc. For any and all who care to do a minimum of looking at FACTS -- not opinions, but FACTS -- that is an excellent understanding of "what actually happened."

14 posted on 08/18/2015 9:23:23 AM PDT by Finny (Be ready to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is pretend. You can only vote "for.")
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To: taxcontrol
"I did see a lot of “bullet fragments” listed. This tends to show up in high velocity rounds that shatter upon impact."

Fragments are also very common with hollow point pistol rounds.

15 posted on 08/18/2015 9:26:57 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: taxcontrol

” did not find any specific caliber information. I did see a lot of “bullet fragments” listed. This tends to show up in high velocity rounds that shatter upon impact. This is NOT consistent with low velocity pistol rounds. It MIGHT be possible should every one be using fragmented rounds.”

Several deformed bullets were recovered whole.

Seven of recovered from the dead were MEDIUM caliber. .38 or 9mm or similar.


21 posted on 08/18/2015 10:06:41 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: taxcontrol

“Also of concern is the fact that there are not powder burns. This would indicate that the shots were made from at least 5 to 7 feet away.”

Er, that means it was a ‘distant’ shot. In the medical field that means about two feet or more.


28 posted on 08/18/2015 10:18:26 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: taxcontrol; Fido969

I think...we know some of what happened.


57 posted on 08/18/2015 11:30:22 AM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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