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Is the Amazon rainforest MAN-MADE? At least 8 MILLION humans may have lived and farmed the [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^
| July 24, 2015
| Richard Gray
Posted on 07/24/2015 6:22:31 AM PDT by C19fan
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The whole idea of the Native people of the Americas living in harmony with nature until the Europeans came is pure bunk. A lot of research has come out of how native people transformed the ecology of the Americas. I read about how the Amazons were once home to millions of people. Some believe it was mosquitoes that carried malaria being brought across the Atlantic from Europe and Africa that wiped out this Amazon based culture/civilization.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:22:31 AM PDT
by
C19fan
To: C19fan
This theory was the subject of a book some years ago.
I think it was titled “1491.”
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:25:58 AM PDT
by
Eric in the Ozarks
("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
To: C19fan
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:27:44 AM PDT
by
arthurus
(it's true!)
To: C19fan
Then, according to the enviro-nazis, we should do everything in our power to return it to its previous condition.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:38:12 AM PDT
by
Quality_Not_Quantity
(Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Yes, you’re right. The theory blew me away at the time and seems to be gathering some steam with this new evidence.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:40:22 AM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: C19fan
I seem to vaguely remember some article years ago about planes detecting straight-lined formations under the jungle. I’ll have to see if I can find it.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:43:05 AM PDT
by
P.O.E.
(Pray for America)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
1491 was an interesting read.
I noted that it shot down a lot of the “noble red man living in harmony with nature and the earth” and, accordingly, wondered how it ever got published.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:44:45 AM PDT
by
Arm_Bears
(Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
To: C19fan
But according to PBS the ARF is at least eleventy billion years old.
To: C19fan; NYer; zot
Obviously “we” can blame the Christian God for creating man in his envrionmental destroying image. Or so the Gaia worshipers will claim...which will be saying that the God they don’t believe in actually created the earth.
And I as a Christian am not in agreement with my sarcastic words I’m putting in the mouth of honest Gaia worshipers, who probably believe what I’m saying.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:49:14 AM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: C19fan
The notion of "preserving" something that is dynamic and ever changing in its nature is problematic indeed.
Rivers turn into swamps, then wetlands, meadows and forests while the river took some other path and the cycle repeats elsewhere.
When humans are part of the process it becomes even more of a problem for enviros.
The ecology of pastures for example are heavily dependent on the farmer doing his thing every year.
If you try to freeze it in time by stopping all human activity it becomes something else.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:51:14 AM PDT
by
BitWielder1
(I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
To: C19fan
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07/24/2015 6:51:54 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
To: SunkenCiv
PinGGG!...................
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07/24/2015 6:52:28 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
To: C19fan
Agenda 21 was implemented way before its current incarnation.
May the piranha consume the UN.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:59:04 AM PDT
by
Paladin2
(Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
To: arthurus
That was a fascinating book.
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posted on
07/24/2015 6:59:18 AM PDT
by
cld51860
(Volo pro veritas)
To: C19fan
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posted on
07/24/2015 7:00:38 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
To: C19fan
The fact that there were more people there in the past doesn’t equate to a man made forest.
The thin infertile forest soil doesn’t lend itself to large scale farming very well. Its why the natives practice slash and burn farming. The 6 inches of fertile topsoil is worn out in a few years so they let the forest reclaim the land and move on to clear more land.
Obviously they can farm on a large scale today but its only due to modern farming methods that include constant soil maintenance. Its like trying to farm in southern California without irrigation.
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posted on
07/24/2015 7:06:20 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
To: C19fan
The book 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus discusses this extensively.
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posted on
07/24/2015 7:12:40 AM PDT
by
zek157
To: Arm_Bears
I enjoyed both 1491 and the sequel 1493. The author does start doing back flips to fight the obvious conclusion that the natives may not have been as benign to the environment as the Al Gorites would like to think. They were humans they used technology to defeat enemies, grow crops and in general survive. Clear cut burns,water diversion and other tactics don’t fit into the modern liberals view of the world back then. And then he quoted Ward Churchill and I knew where he was coming from.
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07/24/2015 7:55:41 AM PDT
by
freefdny
To: JenB
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posted on
07/24/2015 8:28:43 AM PDT
by
TalonDJ
To: freefdny
I’ve been slogging through 1493.
Don’t find it quite as enjoyable as 1491—and the author’s politics taint the narrative a bit more—but still a lot of info that is omitted in high school/college presentations of the subject.
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posted on
07/24/2015 8:40:04 AM PDT
by
Arm_Bears
(Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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