Can we talk honestly about immigration?

Vallejo Times Herald ^ | July 17, 2015 | Dennis Lund

[Michael.SF.]

Recent impolitic comments from Donald Trump have raised the subject of illegal immigration to new levels. To no one’s surprise, this has resulted in his in his excoriation from the open borders crowd. But, if his comments serve to further this issue as a subject of political debate, then “The Donald” has performed a service to the nation. And we owe him our thanks for doing so.

The Open Borderists simultaneously declare Trump’s comments to be xenophobic, while ignoring basic troubling facts. More on that in a moment.

Immigration has a long history in our nation. One we are often reminded of, with movies such as “The Godfather Part II”, one movie I can watch repeatedly, being an iconic example.

One especially poignant scene is when the immigrant laden ship Moshulu sails into New York Harbor on the approach to Ellis Island (we will ignore that the ship is sailing out and not in). Recall the immigrants slowly rising to see Lady Liberty for the first time. The look of hope and awe on their faces is priceless.

[Michael.SF.]

From the piece:

• Illegal aliens who have been released from custody between 2008 and mid-2011 have been charged with 16,226 subsequent crimes, including 19 murders, 142 sex crimes and thousands of drunk-driving offenses, drug-crimes and felonies

• There were 159,286 cases where legal and illegal immigrants were arrested, identified via FBI databases and then let free.

• More than a 33-month period, from October 2008 and July 2011, roughly one-sixth of those let go were later arrested for 57,736 crimes.

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Immigration reform is always about amnesty. Debate is never honest.

[Jim Robinson]

"Can we talk honestly about immigration?"

Obviously, not.

[ElainaVer]

Did you notice that one of the comments after the article mentioned John McCain and the Keating Five? Very interesting . . .

[Haddit]

Ron Gochez, a Los Angeles school teacher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRu0wo3DYh0

“A revolutionary Mexican Organization”…” This is not just about Mexico, this is about a global struggle against imperialism and capitalism. But we know that where we now stand is stolen occupied Mexico. And the message that we bring if you want to bring a little bit more of a revolutionary context to this, why is it that these people? These frail racist white people want to keep us out of this country. It’s not simply because of the color of our skin, it’s not simply because they just want to exploit us, let me tell you why. Because on this planet right now, 6 billion people at the forefront of the revolutionary movement is La Raza.”…

…”We have a long history and example of our comondante Fidel Castro Ruiz, Caesar Hugo Chaves, Eduardo Morales, we got Brazil, Equator, you name it, we are nine, nine ??? governments in Latin America right now, and they know something that a one young Argentine cockroach said, it was called a domino theory, and he knew that every single country would go revolutionary. One after the other, after the other, after the other, after the other.”

“So what do they fear? They know that every single country, they know that we no longer will fall for these lies called borders, they know that a Salvadorian, that a Guatemalan and a Nicaraguan and a Mexicano, there is no damn difference, we are all one people. So with that in mind, we see our selves, all of us here, as the Northern front of a Latin American revolutionary movement. There are more than 40 million of our people north of the Rio Grande. That means to them there is 40 million revolutionaries north of the border inside the belly of the beast. So when you think about why do they want to kick us of all people out, that’s why”.

“They know that we now know the truth. They know that we are La Raza, we’re professionals, we are educators, we are revolutionary students, what does that mean? We are just a regular culture anymore, we are a culture of revolutionary spirit. And that’s the fear.”

“So with that being said, I want to leave you with this, as a revolutionary and with revolutionary context, let us be clear about one thing, our enemy is not the minutemen, quote me, our enemy is not the minutemen, because the minutemen are not the ones who have killed over four thousand, six hundred people at those borders, our enemy is the same enemy as Hugo Chaves, that Hugo Chaves has, our enemy is the same enemy that keeps Africa poor, our enemy is the same enemy that keeps Asia poor, Our enemy is capitalism, imperialism.”

“And I’ll finish with this, I’ll finish with this to respect the time. If we are serious about making CHANGE, if you are serious about making CHANGE, let me tell you, the struggle will go on for many more years after we leave UCLA. Reading a book or writing a book, or teaching a class, that is not, that is not part of the movement. What you do 24 hours a day as a professional revolutionary, that is what is going to lead our people and our people to liberation. Viva La Raza.”

[Michael.SF.]

LOL.

I think we can here, can't we?

[Michael.SF.]

Our tax dollars at work

[Jim Robinson]

Yup. Shut it (the leftist revolution) down!

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Somebody is showing their age.

[Tennessee Nana]

PING

[familyop]

Trump/Cruz: Entry of the Gladiators

[ElainaVer]

LOL . . hard to believe it was 25 years ago.

[jsanders2001]

^ if that’s the case, La Raza owes the U.S. government a hell of a lot of money to repay the welfare benefits, healthcare, housing, etc...they received.

[jsanders2001]

^ if that’s the case, La Raza owes the U.S. government a hell of a lot of money to repay the welfare benefits, healthcare, housing, etc...they received.

[wiggen]

problem is the other side refuses to even admit there are 2 types. Legal and illegal. To them saying there are illegal immigrants opens one to all manner of accusations. Not that i mind but it’s only now losing its effectiveness in debate.

[Crim]

Yes to the open border crowd there are no illegals...only immigrants.

They are promoting Lawlessness while at the same time they scream “law of the land” when it suits them.

[Liz]

The sentimental narrative on immigration has become a nightmare....the bygone fairy tale that we thrive b/c we are "a nation of immigrants". These liars and criminals are not the "yearning immigrants of yesteryear." These are Third World armies of barbarian invaders---lusting after the riches and wealth of our country----plotting the overthrow of the US govt...AKA The Latino Bund.

The Latino Bund is hard at work----plotting to overthrow the US govt. These are barbarians and interlopers w/ orders to loot and pillage our nation's wealth. Capital Hill is awash in this Third World filth.

The Steinle killing reaffirms that they are here to harm Americans---they despise us.

They act as "pressure groups" --- tight-knit ethnic voting blocs ---- to pressure Congress to start the billionaire gravy train rolling to their salivating Third World handlers. Third World federales are lying-in-wait---salivating for zillions in "humanitarian foreign aid" and anything else they can get their greedy hands on.

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TIME FOR OBAMA TO REGISTER AS A FOREIGN AGENT--
In the WH--plotting the overthrow of the US government?

JULY 2014--Central American leaders at the White House.
President Salvador Sanchez Ceren of El Salvador, left,
President Otto Perez Molina of Guatemala, second left,
and President Juan Orlando Hernandez of Honduras, right.

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REALITY CHECK---"HUMANITARIAN US FOREIGN AID"
US tax dollars laundered in US banks by Guatemalan;
scumbag elected to "redistribute" dirt-poor nation's wealth.

Alfonso Portillo---ex-president of Central America's Guatemala--- faced charges in New York that he used US banks to launder millions looted from his impoverished nation. Alfonso Portillo took office in 2000 pledging to (ahem) redistribute Guatemala’s wealth.

Portillo, 61, allegedly ran scams to drain the impoverished country's coffers. The feds say Portillo embezzled about $2.5M provided by the Taiwanese embassy....$1.5 million was earmarked for “Libraries for Peace”....books for school kid.

Portillo colluded w/ corrupt C/A insiders---he personally endorsed three $500,000 checks issued against an account at the Intl Bank of China in Manhattan, then deposited the cash in the Miami bank account of a Guatemalan bank controlled by a close associate and political supporter.

The embezzled foreign aid money was funneled to bank accounts in Paris in the names of Portillo’s ex-wife and daughter.

<><> Portillo swindled nearly $4M defense funds ...

<><> plundered the national bank run by his alleged co-conspirator...

<><> through overdrafts financed by public reserves the pilfered foreign aid money paid for expensive watches and cars, for Portillo and his associates. (NY POST excerpt 5/28/13)

SOURCE http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/former_guatemala_program_used_from_bJ7Akdr3YK85

[Liz]

2016 CANDIDATE RICK PERRY (then-Texas Gov)
SUCKS-UP TO BLOOD-THIRSTY LA RAZA

Subversive Texas Textbooks---distributed nationwide--- vilify conservative groups;

Breitbart Texas | 09/10/2014 | Merrill Hope / FR Posted by Rusty0604

In 2006, uber-liberal "Texas Rising" stated its mission: "developing an emerging generation of social justice-minded, informed and engaged leaders is essential to the long-term health of our communities and the development of progressive public policy in Texas."

...a sneak peak at the preliminary Social Studies textbook found including distortions, omissions and half-truths all passing for accurate high school US history...

And there's this gem: "The radical right consists of groups that sometimes gather under the flag of militant anticommunism. Often known as reactionaries, they denounce most forms of government regulation, including progressive taxation and restrictions and industry.Examples of political groups on the radical right are the John Birch Society, the National States & Rights party, The Christian Crusade, and the Tea Party movement." (Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

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THIRD WORLD INFILTRATION College Board exams changed history answers... revisionist historians developed different answers to the question of what America’s story is about. From their perspective, at the heart of our country’s history—like the history of any other powerful nation—lies the pursuit of empire, of dominion over others. At its core, say the revisionists, America’s history is about our capacity for self-delusion, our endless attempts to justify raw power grabs with pretty fairy-tales about democracy. ....

NOTE WELL: This terrifying Third World revisionism is straight out of Third World textbooks---emphasizing the T/W effort to undermine US ntl security for the coming armed takeover.

The conniving T/W uses an ancient formula going back to Greco-Roman times---where savages, barbarians and thieves overrun a bountiful country lusting after its power and riches.

REFERENCE--- Some 10 years back, Texas schools started used Mexican textbooks for their backward illiterate Spanish-speaking students. Texas textbooks advocated the Mexican perspective including:

<><> anti-white, anti-capitalist anti-USA viewpoints;

<><> Mexican textbooks falsified US history,

<><> proselytized blood-thirsty La Raza savagery;

<><> using teaching as brainwashing;

<><> inculcating violent separatist, latino supremacy idealogy.

[Michael.SF.]

Exactly right, the quote from 0bama in the piece is a good example.