[Up Yours Marxists]

2 years too late. Did they get that memo about fracking?

[SeekAndFind]

[Logical me]

And where in the hell do they get the hydrogen?

[sitetest]

My low emission diesel CDI will get 600 - 700 miles on a tank, depending on the mix of highway/city driving.

[BlueLancer]

But it got GREAT mileage!

[newfreep]

Toyota Mirai...and Toyota's ugly designs continues.

[Alex Murphy]

....Toyota has shifted its focus toward fuel cells and away from all-electric cars. On Wednesday, Toyota announced that the Mirai had achieved an EPA-estimated range of 312 miles. That’s the longest range of any zero-emission vehicle on the market today, including electric vehicles....One major hurdle left for Toyota to surmount is the lack of hydrogen filling stations, which cost about $1 million each to build. According to the Department of Energy, there are only a dozen hydrogen filling stations nationwide, most of which are in California.

I sure hope they're no more than 311 miles apart!

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

A fuel-cell vehicle is an electric vehicle. In a battery-electric vehicle, a battery converts chemical potential energy to electricity, which drives an electric motor. In a fuel-cell vehicle, a fuel cell converts chemical potential energy into electricity, which dries an electric motor.

[Sherman Logan]

Hydrogen is not an energy source. It’s an energy storage system, much like a battery. Like batteries, it takes quite a bit more energy to charge the battery than you get back out of it.

The emissions of a fuel cell vehicle, like electric vehicles, depends on how you generate the electricity or hydrogen.

Hydrogen can be generated by cracking water with electricity. Don’t know the efficiency loss. But that just moves the emissions back to the electricity generation, as with electric cars.

Hydro, solar, wind and nucular are zero-emissions, and so is the hydrogen generated using them. Any fuel burning source is not, with amount varying by fuel type and plant efficiency.

Most hydrogen, however, is refined from natural gas. Don’t know how clean that approach is.

[Rodamala]

Show $/mile or BTU/mile or go pound sand.