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1 posted on 06/23/2015 6:33:55 AM PDT by C19fan
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Ta-Nehisi Coates

That is all.


2 posted on 06/23/2015 6:37:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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Roof’s belief that black life had no purpose beyond subjugation is “sick and twisted” in the exact same manner as the beliefs of those who created the Confederate flag were “sick and twisted.”

Why is it sick and twisted for the creators of the Confederate flag to believe black life serves no purpose beyond subjugation when the DemocRAT Party embraces the woman, Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, who believes the same thing.

Ditto for Charles Darwin, darling of anti-Creationists, who believed that blacks were an inferior race. In fact, before Darwin's manifesto, we were all considered to be of one race; the human race.

3 posted on 06/23/2015 6:38:13 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Really sick and twisted. I mean the authors’ opinion, not his name :)


4 posted on 06/23/2015 6:41:12 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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Now give him a typewriter..............


5 posted on 06/23/2015 6:46:45 AM PDT by annieokie
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Blah, blah, blah.


12 posted on 06/23/2015 7:21:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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bfl


14 posted on 06/23/2015 7:23:19 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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The left's ability to seize tragedy for their own agenda is going to blow back in their face big time.

Watch SCV's membership grow considerably.

15 posted on 06/23/2015 7:23:52 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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‘Ah’s wonts yo’ tuh pays fuh my reparashuns!
Ah’s wonts yo’ tuh pays fo’ mah house, mah food, to yo’ chillen’s chillen!’

The article has a lot of quotes from the different States, but does NOT refer to the originator of those thoughts, as a literary-trained author should.

The War Between the States was begat with the 10th Amendment off the U.S. Constitution in contention, with Washington, D.C., wishing further centralized control, with the States surrendering their individuality (which was one of the stipulations under the Constitution - their individuality intact) to a centralized federal government.


17 posted on 06/23/2015 7:33:16 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Ta-Nehisi,
- If you dislike this flag, do not fly it.
- Further, do not trash talk those who do.

(btw, note how she’s already joining a media campaign to make the word “heritage” a taboo.)


18 posted on 06/23/2015 7:33:17 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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Tear down that flag!!


19 posted on 06/23/2015 8:02:33 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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That there are many Leftist crack-pots who pontificate against traditional values with little or no knowledge or understanding of history, is a given. The real question is how and when to respond to them, in a manner that is effective.

The idea that because the Confederate South had an hierarchical system, such as that in Biblical times; such as that in the Classical era of Greece & Rome; such as that in almost all of Europe from the fall of Rome until the modern era; there was an idea that the lives of workers did not matter, is a ludicrous form of angry myopia that needs to be addressed.

For an example. From the standpoint of whether "Black lives mattered" in the days of the Confederacy: Contrast the relative standing of urban Blacks in most American cities today, with their standing (cumulatively, both as free men and those technically in bondage--as were some we honor from Classical Greece to this day) in the actual days of the Confederacy?

Most of your skilled construction workers, carpenters, masons, shipwrights, etc.., were Black in the deep South. (Some "free," many still technically not; but certainly respected, in the early 1860s.) What happened? The end of the War generation were not able to pass on their skills to their children--corrupted by Leftist politicians of that era, promising instant equality from Government--entitlements just from existing.

White Americans are certainly being victimized by the present Administration in Washington. But, frankly, as anyone who understands the dynamics of human motivations (positive & negative); it is a very close call, which race is being victimized more. Looking at what has been happening in Black neighborhoods in Baltimore, Greater St. Louis, Chicago, etc.; it does not really appear to be the Whites.

Nor is the victimization that terrorizes law abiding Blacks, the result of Policemen doing their jobs; or of Southerners who honor their very American heritage that comes closer than any other to reflecting the values & traditions of the Founding Fathers. To understand what is destroying the quality of "Black lives," you need to look to the centers of Leftwing agitation, and the White House & the hopelessly compromised Republicans, who sit silently--if not providing a friendly chorus--while America is being deconstructed. (And do not forget who is being most directly victimized by the open Southern border.)

20 posted on 06/23/2015 8:11:21 AM PDT by Ohioan
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The attempts to remove the Confederate flag from public facilities have been ongoing for several decades. Liberals are following the observation of Rahm Emmanuel, who said never let a crisis go to waste, so they are using the murders apparently committed by Dylann Roof, a drug addict, an anti-Christian and anti-American, to further their cause. Removal of signs of the past is standard operating procedures for revolutionists, from the days of Robespierre and Murat to those of Lenin and Stalin to the current time.

Were the Confederate leaders committed to a noble cause? Yes, with respect to preserving state sovereignty; no with respect to preserving human bondage. They were flawed, but so were Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, Sherman, Grant, etc. So were the Founders, though arguably less so than the Civil War leaders. So were later generations. Eisenhower, perhaps the most successful military leader America ever produced, made errors, such as restraining General Patton from taking western Czechoslovakia and Eastern Germany and acceding to Operation Keelhaul. MacArthur made some bad tactical decisions in World War II and Korea and was insubordinate to Truman to boot.

At this time, there are no active moves to remove the memorials to the Founders, the Northern leaders of the Civil War, or other past leaders. Make no mistake; their time is coming. Already there is talk of removing Hamilton or Jackson from U.S. currency and replacing either or both with some feminist battle-ax. The goal of the Left is to reshape American society into a dystopia that is a cross between 1984, Brave New World, and Idiocracy.

We may lose, but there must be no surrender, no compromise.

22 posted on 06/23/2015 8:33:46 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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As the government started sticking its nose into our tents and lives the use of the Confederate Battle Flag was simply used as a popularized emblem of defiance and protest. To many that display it that was never considered to be because one supported racism although some displaying it do. But those that do so also probably would deny supporting slavery of people of any form including people with black skin.

Use of it as a choice symbol of protest though, runs the risk of a viewer comming to that conclusion. But it should be pointed out that blacks also fought and died on the side of the Confederacy . In the view of the southerners while that greatest loss of life as a result of that conflict. It was not just about the abolition of slavery as it is currently being poltically correctly explained and used. And any move to ban its use should be considered a violation of the Constitutional free speech amendments


23 posted on 06/23/2015 8:36:16 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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