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Dispelling the Doberman Myth: Friendly Family Pets or Fearsome Foes?
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Posted on 06/18/2015 8:00:40 PM PDT by Altariel

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To: momtothree

That’s cuz Ya never feed Her.

See #59 BTW


61 posted on 06/19/2015 4:48:43 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: Altariel
I was jogging after dark one evening on a lightly traveled road when I was confronted across the road by a snarling Doberman.
Usually in similar dog confrontations I would reach down as if to pick up something and then hold my arm up as if I were going to throw and almost invariably the dogs would turn tail and take off.
It happened rather frequently and usually I didn't actually pick anything up.
Not so this dog, although actually that time I had picked up a billy-club sized stick to pitch or weild, but I wasn't about to release it unless the Doberman charged.
It was a snarling stand still for a seemingly interminable time.
Finally a car came by.
The driver instantly grasped the situation and slowed down and moved the car slowly keeping the vehicle between me and the Doberman so that I could make my escape and continue my jog. waving in appreciation for his/her help.
62 posted on 06/19/2015 4:53:50 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Wow! I’d forgotten about Stubb’s. Go a BBQ War thing going on the NC Local Board.


63 posted on 06/19/2015 4:54:50 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

The black and tan markings of the Doberman run from the tiny Chihuahua up through the Great Dane. I had a Miniature Pinscher who was quite large for the breed but still fairly small, though he didn’t know it.

One afternoon we were at one end of the dog park when a regal Great Dane entered the park at the other end. Well, my dog saw her from across the field and he stopped and looked at me, looked at her and looked at me again, for just a moment, as if to say, “I found me a big legged woman!” and off he sprinted to make her acquaintance.

Poor thing was ignored by that amazon beauty. She was thoroughly unimpressed by his charms and just sniffed him and move away... Oh well. That’s life.


64 posted on 06/19/2015 4:58:30 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Altariel

When i lived in SoCal, i raised 3 Dobermans. One of them grew to ‘overstandard’ size, but that is just the breed, just as humans growing to 7 feet tall.they were not ‘working dogs’, although that is how they are categorized as a breed. They were the babies of the family.

Socialize your Doberman? oh my yes. Start training as soon as you bring the little one home? The dog will start learning with you, or all of you, as soon as it comes home. It is the pack thing. It’s how they learn social behavior.

Dobermans might just like one of you, more than the others, but will not ‘hate’ that person. If one comes to your side, and is paying attention to your hand, they have a habit of walking with you, TENDERLY, holding your hand in it’s mouth. The first time that happened to me, was during the time the movie ‘the doberman gang’ was playing.

Always know this, if you talk to your dog, in a voice tone, HIGHER than your normal voice, the dog will think you’ve turned into a nutless Bruce jenner, and will ignore you.

always, for a tone of authority, lower your voice. The dog in the pack with the lower tones are the authority in the pack.

Dobermans are very curious dogs. If you watch closely, they have eyebrow motions, and could be considered a human trait. One of mine, so i thought, did that ‘Spockian’ eyebrow thing, when it was confused.

They are a ‘sight’ dog. sure they have nasal senses better than us, but they are better at running something down.

Dobermans have been used by the USMC for front line dogs in the pacific theater in WW2.

They are beautiful dogs, who can win your heart, if you let them.


65 posted on 06/19/2015 5:44:28 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Altariel

I had a Dobie years ago. She was smart, quick, agile, easy to train, a sweet girl friendly to those she knew, & was terrified of my mean old tabby cat, yet they often slept side by side. Yes, she barked at strangers just as all dogs do. I’ve seen small lap dogs go ballistic over a stranger while my doberman barely barked. I guess it was that deep bark that frightened people, yet a Chihuahua can chew your leg off in a flash.

A dog’s personality is a reflection of its owners personality, just as a child reflects their parents personality. Mean, indifferent, chaotic owners/parents yield bad dogs & bad kids. Nice people have nice dogs, no matter the breed. Yes, there are mentally disturbed dogs just as there are people like that. Both can be dangerous.

Still, a doberman has that undeserved reputation that sends the burglars & bad guys to another house without a doberman, & for those who own one that is a good thing.


66 posted on 06/19/2015 6:13:15 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: freedumb2003

Newest since 30 years ago, when I defended them.

There must be a reason it’s still the issue.


67 posted on 06/19/2015 7:20:07 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Amagi; Salamander

Since the dog did nothing more than snarl from its side of the road, I can only conclude that it was protecting its territory while being under the influence of da ebils.

Had the dog been intent on attacking *you*, it would have run around or behind the car or continued to pursue you after the car drove off.

I’m sure that as soon as you were out of sight, the dog went back to its patrol. No doubt harboring future ebil plans.


68 posted on 06/19/2015 7:48:54 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Probably because criminals and other bad breeders continue to breed dogs that shouldn't be bred and abuse otherwise good dogs. Were the bully breeds in the habit of taking their abuse out on their owners I doubt it would have lasted for so long.

Have a great one.


69 posted on 06/19/2015 7:51:47 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Terry L Smith
"They are beautiful dogs, who can win your heart, if you let them."

Fortunately I am immune to their ebil, sinister influence.

Immune.


70 posted on 06/19/2015 7:53:42 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Owners claim their dogs are perfectly safe while simultaneously claiming they are dangerous enough to protect them.

Safe or dangerous? “Well if they are properly trained..” Well, what if they aren’t properly trained?


71 posted on 06/19/2015 8:01:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Altariel

Growing up, I had a friend who had two dobbies, very family friendly except for those who were not family, or were not introduced by family. I.e. Strangers.


72 posted on 06/19/2015 8:05:07 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AppyPappy
Mine was a nice safe dog as long as you did not try to get into our yard or raise your hand to me. Then she growled and bit. If you then retreated she would not chase you. She was only interested in drive you off.

There was a (sort of) exception and that was when a male dog went into her yard when she had pups. That dog she killed.

73 posted on 06/19/2015 8:45:52 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Most likely, the male dog would have attacked the puppies had she not attacked him. It must not have been very intelligent to stick around when it saw an angry mother dog charging at it.


74 posted on 06/19/2015 8:49:57 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
That is what we figure.

The owner was very upset as it had been a prize winning German Shepard but we pointed out that his dog was in our yard.

I used to love to watch her run. She was poetry in motion when she opened up.

75 posted on 06/19/2015 8:56:42 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

How odd; German shepherds are normally fairly intelligent dogs. Guess that one either didn’t have dog-sense or thought it could still complete its mission despite the angry momma dog.


76 posted on 06/19/2015 9:00:52 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
At the time of the incident on that particular stretch of the road on which I was jogging there were no houses in sight, no obvious territory to protect.
There were some periodic gravel roads, possibly leading off in the distance to some unseen homesteads.
I knew that if I tried to jog away it would incite the cur to the chase, and I reckoned he was likely faster than me.
77 posted on 06/19/2015 9:24:21 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Amagi

Very likely he considers all of his master’s acreage to be under his protection, as it would seem that his master owned some land and the dog stayed on what would appear to be its property as opposed to roaming.


78 posted on 06/19/2015 9:37:48 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: AppyPappy

If they’re not “properly trained”, they tend to express their high energy in goofy ways, like jumping on people or unpleasant ways such as chewing furniture and socks.

Most novice owners who have no idea what they’re doing wind up up okay, anyway, because the dogs are smart enough to adjust for our stupidity.

To the first part of your question, they are exactly like that.

The Dobe who patiently allows his little mistress to paint his nails and put Elsa costumes on him will also put a serious hurt on anyone who tries to harm her.

Could you ask for a better babysitter for *your* precious child?

When I was a kid, only my Dobes kept the pedo uncle away from me, while my parents did nothing.

The first one was not “properly trained” but he intuited my needs.

They excel at that, which is one of the top reasons I adore them.

Case in point, I trained Odin to be a support dog for my physical balance issues.

Seven, I have not.

*But*, one day, after having taken her to all the ‘toy stores’, I took her into a dog-friendly used book store with me.

She patiently sat and yawned while I spent an hour hanging sideways, reading the titles on the shelves.

But then, when I tried to straighten myself vertical again, my traitorous nerves sent me plummeting toward the floor.

Imagine my shock when my fall was broken, as she leaped to my side and shoved herself against me, giving me a grab-hold to keep myself upright.

She did exactly what Odin was *taught* to do, and I had *nothing to do with it*.

She somehow *knew* what she had to do.

How, I have no idea.

But that is part of the wonder that is a Dobe.

And mine are not especially unique in that respect.

They *all* act like that, to some degree.

If I had to guess, I would say that the Beauceron herding dog influence has something to do with it.


79 posted on 06/19/2015 9:50:06 AM PDT by Salamander (Vested Subhuman)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I think it’s still an “issue” because of the people the breed attracts.

You will not find many fawning sheeple with a ‘desirable’ communistic mindset among them.

Imagine how much that enrages the control freaks who think they have a right to do whatever they want, your property rights and lines be damned.

And that can be said of most of the breeds on the “scary dog list”.

It’s always about control and authority.


80 posted on 06/19/2015 9:54:29 AM PDT by Salamander (Vested Subhuman)
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