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'New York City is lost. Totally.'
American Thinker ^ | 06/11/2015 | By Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 06/11/2015 8:02:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

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21 posted on 06/11/2015 12:00:41 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ForYourChildren

I homeschooled my two boys.

Abandoning public school is not the answer. We need to take them back.


22 posted on 06/11/2015 12:44:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: justlurking

I learned by sight, too. I was an avid reader as a child and well beyond my grade.


23 posted on 06/11/2015 12:52:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: huldah1776

Yes - I agree! Hearing words and well formed sentences help so much in fluency, which is also important to language development. I wish teachers would/could devote time to reading aloud from THE CLASSICS. I’m guessing that’s not going to happen - ever. All the resources and the knowledge we have to draw from - and we’re choosing to ignore it.


24 posted on 06/11/2015 12:55:28 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: driftdiver

Abandoning public school is not the answer. We need to take them back.

_______________________

there is nothing to take back. And one cannot change bureaucracies. It is better to do and end run around the Blob and let it die.


25 posted on 06/11/2015 1:03:30 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s only the first of many areas that will be lost for all the same reasons. Obama is going to make sure that even those who work hard not to live under these conditions will have to in the name of “equality.”


26 posted on 06/11/2015 3:02:27 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: driftdiver
Abandoning public school is not the answer. We need to take them back.

That is never ever, going to happen. The public school systems are hopelessly unaccountable, hopelessly inbred, and hopelessly awash in money. It is designed, operated, staffed, and controlled by atheistic communists and secular humanists who look to Bill Ayers and Arne Duncan. Ticket punchers, go-alongs, and college graduates, worker bees all dependent on the government paycheck. It is a racket; a cynical and evil joke worthy of Kafka. They are little more that prisons and indoctrination centers.

Unless you are willing to kill (some of) them, "We" aren't taking anything back, because they have the force of law, and the force of the lazy and the dependent. Don't you see that their work product guarantees voters who will keep them in power? That the only thing they really excel at is debasing and "socializing" children?

27 posted on 06/12/2015 6:53:19 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You are—horrendous schools are the feeder in NYC crime.

That said, NYC is one of the safest cities around.

The Marxism is, of course, a huge problem as well.


28 posted on 06/12/2015 6:56:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ecomcon

And yet public schools used to be the foundation of a moral citizen.

Too bad our enemies didn’t look at the task as impossible.


29 posted on 06/12/2015 6:58:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Public school has never, ever been the “foundation” of a moral citizen. Such an idea is statist nonsense. In fact, public morality has an inverse relation to the rise of secular public education over time.

Our enemies are on the one hand murderers and bomb throwers; domestic terrorists; psychopaths whose benefactor is the government. On the other hand, the dependent and politically corrected, whose benefactor is the government.

30 posted on 06/12/2015 7:30:50 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

Sure it has. Its a fantastic tool for conditioning. Its just you used to agree with the conditioning they were pushing.


31 posted on 06/12/2015 7:43:48 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Morality comes from the home. Public schools should have no business in it. Yet that is actually all the education comrades really, really want to do. Political correctness is secular morality, and it is fun for them. Not so much those tedious 3 R’s.


32 posted on 06/12/2015 8:01:10 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ElayneJ

Can’t use the classics....they are not copyrighted and no one will make any money on them. Have to keep the kiddies illiterate and angry.


33 posted on 06/12/2015 8:04:25 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: ecomcon

There will be the teaching of morals in public schools. Its simply a matter of which morals will be taught.


34 posted on 06/12/2015 8:57:28 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Chickensoup
This is my opinion as well.

Government schools need:

1) Kids

2) The money that comes with each enrolled child.

Remove the child and starve the beast!

35 posted on 06/12/2015 4:53:14 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: driftdiver; ecomcon
Driftdiver,

You “get it”! The government schools have **never** been morally neutral, as you pointed out. Why?

Reason:

It is impossible to have a religiously, politically, and culturally neutral education. Such a state of philosophic neutrality can **not** exist in the mind of any sentient human.

Government schooling has always pushed the NON-neutral worldview of the most politically powerful. Fundamentally government schooling is a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination.

36 posted on 06/12/2015 5:00:47 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: wintertime; driftdiver

Wintertime, I agree.

Driftdiver, it is my belief that government schooling is not something that should be taken back, because it is a moral hazard per se and has shown itself to be a failure; a Trojan horse to get inside the walls of the home, and a tailor-made tool for statists of every stripe to gather power. It should be abolished. Which is not likely to happen, because nobody in leadership has the stones to say it.

Further, I will say that the inexorable 100 plus year long slide into the insanity we currently find our country in is incurable, without a spiritual renewal. And that rarely happens to the fat, dumb, and happy.


37 posted on 06/13/2015 7:15:08 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

So fixing public schools is an impossible task but eliminating them is reasonable? No wonder were losing.


38 posted on 06/13/2015 10:26:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ecomcon
Unless & until someone with real influence in the educationalist culture, stands up and rallies those still capable of reason, to reject, once & for all, the egalitarian fantasy that people are interchangeable; that any child can be educated to a certain level; that equality of condition, equality of achievement or equality in any other measure of success, is even an idealistic goal; there can be no improvement.

What I refer to as the egalitarian fantasy not only confuses--grossly confuses--analysis of cause & effect, in addressing educational problems--as, for example, how to realistically measure school or teacher performance levels; or the quality of parental performance or behavior, etc.;--it has a full complement of other deleterious effects. These include stoking the individual grievance mentality; ignoring the talents one actually has, in order to blame others for the talents one does not have; while causing a denial of opportunities to those who might otherwise excel, or providing incentives to under-perform among the more gifted, generally.

Its effect as an inhibitor of any realistic legislative remedy, is also quite clear.

39 posted on 06/13/2015 11:24:57 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: driftdiver

We don’t try to reconstruct cancer cells, we excise them. Fear and cowardice is why we are losing.


40 posted on 06/13/2015 11:51:49 AM PDT by ecomcon
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