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To: Ancient Man

He let him off to prey upon someone else. If you need to pull it, you need to use it.


8 posted on 05/21/2015 6:17:28 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton
Any single rule on something like that is going to be a lot like 'zero tolerance' and be completely inappropriate at some point.

I prefer not to lock myself into an action that may not be appropriate or adult.

/johnny

13 posted on 05/21/2015 6:41:55 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Mouton

I disagree. There are many scenarios where brandishing a weapon could end the threat. If, for example, they turned and ran away, your recommendation would be to shoot them in the bacK? No thanks. I don’t want to go to prison.


15 posted on 05/21/2015 6:46:47 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: Mouton

That is probably what will happen.


20 posted on 05/21/2015 6:59:46 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Mouton
He let him off to prey upon someone else. If you need to pull it, you need to use it.

Let me give you the situation I was in, during one of the situations when I pulled out my weapon, and you tell me if you would have killed the two people or not have pulled.

I was flipping houses, a young black man knocked and wanted to talk see the house for his mother. I let him in to see the house, but I kept him at about 10 ft and he didn't know that I had a center-back holstered pistol. I kept my right hand on my hip, inches from the pistol, as I talked to him.

Soon after letting him in, he stopped making sense and it was clear that he had no interest in the house. Then the door (which I had failed to lock behind him) opened and #2 came in. They were exchanging looks and sizing me up. It was clear to me that they were on the verge of rushing me, or pulling weapons. I didn't want to be the second to pull, so I pulled and held the muzzle 45 degrees down with them at about 12 ft.

I told them to get the hell out and they ran like hell, without a word.

I could have waited and probably killed them both, but if I had waited, they may have shot me. If they rushed me, I could have shot them both, but then if they weren't armed, I would have been faced with having shot two unarmed, young black men that hadn't laid a finger on me.

My house that I was trying to sell would have been a crime scene, with the likelihood of it being trashed by the friends of the deceased quite high.

I pulled early to prevent getting behind the response curve, but in doing so created two fleeing criminals who had not yet produced a verbal or physical threat, and may not have been armed. Shooting them at that point would have resulted in prosecution for murder.

26 posted on 05/21/2015 7:49:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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