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To: yoe
7 ... Slavery had always been unpopular....the anti-slavery movement had nothing to do with The War Between The States...that came much later when Lincoln faced a war weary North and needed a better reason to continue his tariff war.

Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union

... The Constitution of the United States, in its fourth Article, provides as follows: "No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due."

This stipulation was so material to the compact, that without it that compact would not have been made. The greater number of the contracting parties held slaves, and they had previously evinced their estimate of the value of such a stipulation by making it a condition in the Ordinance for the government of the territory ceded by Virginia, which now composes the States north of the Ohio River.

The same article of the Constitution stipulates also for rendition by the several States of fugitives from justice from the other States.

The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. ...

The ends for which the Constitution was framed are declared by itself to be "to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."

These ends it endeavored to accomplish by a Federal Government, in which each State was recognized as an equal, and had separate control over its own institutions. The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.

This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety.

... We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.

Adopted December 24, 1860

13 posted on 05/20/2015 12:53:36 AM PDT by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: MacNaughton

Fascinating, as always.

The main “states rights” issue discussed in that document is SC objecting to northern states exercising their’s.


22 posted on 05/20/2015 3:05:44 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: MacNaughton
South Carolina was always the most extreme Southern state ("too small for a nation and too big for an insane asylum"). Just another reason to reject Lindsey Graham for President!

I heard a talk recently about the Confederate constitution by a retired history professor (not a Confederate sympathizer). He pointed out that the constitution was written very hastily by men from the Deep South (where slavery was more important than in the Upper South, whose states did not secede until after Fort Sumter), also that it created a system where the central government had more powers than under the US Constitution (in other words, it was weaker on states' rights). Because of its Deep South origins it was less democratic than if the Upper South politicians had had a hand in it.

26 posted on 05/20/2015 3:36:52 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: MacNaughton
Well, good luck. On one of these CW threads years ago I made reference to the Ordinances of Secession trying to convince the diehards why the Southern states seceded. Every OOS made it plain slavery was the main reason they were seceding.

And for good measure I'd throw in Confederate Veep Alexander Stephens's quote about slavery being "the cornerstone of the Confederacy." All to no avail.

Basically it's banging your head against a brick wall trying to convince the diehards.

95 posted on 05/20/2015 7:09:00 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: MacNaughton
Thank you for this: Confederate States of America - Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union....few people could afford to out-right buy slave labor so they 'mortgaged' the 'property' through a bank using their land as collateral. If the laborer (slaves) ran away the bank would redeem monies owed on said collateral. Those that could afford to purchase out-right mortgaged their slaves (loans) to the banks enabling the planters to buy more land and slaves...to further provide capital for those loans, the banks sold bonds to investors from around the globe. In many ways, this is history repeating its self.
112 posted on 05/20/2015 10:34:09 AM PDT by yoe
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