Apple pounds Street with record second quarter iPhone and Mac sales

Mac Daily News ^ | April 27, 2015

[jwalsh07]

Apple employs about 45,000 in the US. About a half million in China manufacturing facilities. “Jobs created” is more be. usually employed by left wingers in regards to hgovernment fantasy. The result of overseas manufacturing is a US population where half are employed and perhaps 25% of us foot the bill for the other 80%. The Favorite tax base is such that those of us who have busted our asses for our entire lives have yto support not only our own families but UA couple of more as well so while I am all for maximizing profits and free market capitalism I am not at all thrilled to. subsidising companies who employ Chinese rather than Americans who would take up some of the outrageous tax bills I pay every year. Comprende Zorro?

[Swordmaker]

Apple employs about 45,000 in the US. About a half million in China manufacturing facilities. “Jobs created” is more be. usually employed by left wingers in regards to hgovernment fantasy. The result of overseas manufacturing is a US population where half are employed and perhaps 25% of us foot the bill for the other 80%. The Favorite tax base is such that those of us who have busted our asses for our entire lives have yto support not only our own families but UA couple of more as well so while I am all for maximizing profits and free market capitalism I am not at all thrilled to. subsidising companies who employ Chinese rather than Americans who would take up some of the outrageous tax bills I pay every year. Comprende Zorro?

WOW! Like to make up stuff?

Apple does not have "about a half million in China manufacturing facilities" Sorry. Jwalsh07. Not one of those factory workers is an employee of Apple inc. They are employees of the contract manufacturers, such as FoxConn and Pegatron, that assemble electronics for companies among whom are some of the largest Consumer Electronic companies in the World including Apple. However, you cannot claim they are Apple's "employees" because you will not find them any where on Apple's payroll. Nice try.

Apple now directly employs over 100,000 people worldwide, 66,000 of those are employed in the United States, more than 45% greater than the number you allege, with none of them working for minimum wage. These are facts

Apple Employment Growth

The ecosystem built around Apple products, the services Apple products generate, the development of apps, programs, and support for iPhones, iPads, iPods, AppleTVs, Macs and now Apple Watches in third-party companies IN the UNITED STATES according to census surveys account for over 1.3 million well paid jobs in the US, most of them far higher than factory wages, the majority of the jobs in small to medium sized businesses. These are facts, too. Although it has yet to be update with what Apple's CEO announced in the past week about the number of jobs created by association with Apple's ecosystem, probabably because it mentions nothing about the Apple Watch, you can learn exactly where the data comes from: Apple's Website page on Jobs in the USA.

By the end of 2015, the small companies who create apps for the iOS environment have received over $25,000,000,000 for their efforts in working with Apple. That's nothing to sneeze at. Their employees would not have jobs were it not for Apple.

It was just announced in February that:

Apple said it has increased operations in Europe, spending more than 7.8 billion euros on European companies and suppliers last year and supporting some 670,000 jobs in the region. Its own employees grew by 2,000 and number 18,300 people in 19 European countries.

I have told you that Apple is trying to bring jobs back to the US. . . and their desk top computers are being built in the United States. . . but you are choosing to ignoring that. Apple is the ONLY consumer electronics company to not outsource its technical support to some foreign company. . . but rather keep it in the United States. GEE! I bet you didn't know that. You call Apple for tech support you're talking to an American in English who knows what you and they are talking about.

Apple has announced they will be returning more than $200 BILLION to investors in the UNITED STATES in the next fiscal year in the form of dividends and stock buy backs, which will be available in the UNITED STATES for the benefactors to invest, creating on their own more potential for jobs in the UNITED STATES. That joins the more than $300 BILLION that Apple has already returned to investors in the past four years. There is no other company in the history of the world that has paid of investors like Apple.

When you argue the facts and statistics with someone educated as an Economist tells you, expect to be handed your head in a hand basket, jwalsh07, especially about the Economy and employment when you are pulling your data out of your navel if not somewhere further down your anatomy.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

About a half million in China manufacturing facilities.

Communist China wouldn't exist without companies like Apple.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

pay levels are the equivalent of being paid between $23 to $52 per hour for factory work.

$52/hour for mindless assembly-line work in China? Amazing. What a place. Just imagine what CEOs and professional fanbuoys and their clones get paid. Have you and Cigar Reveler contemplated moving to China to enjoy the awesome standard of living?

[TheBattman]

Apple sets more records - so expect the stock to take a dip... as pundits will pontificate that Apple should have done EVEN BETTER... LOL.

[TheBattman]

That and to maintain profit margin (and keep stockholders happy), the prices would have to go up even beyond the often “premium” margins already charged. That’s the funny thing about most investors - they expect a return on investment.

Not to mention the government regulations across the manufacturing spectrum that make it a pain to make ANYTHING here anymore...

Oh - and aren’t the Mac Pro models made in the USA now? And example of the “premium” costs involved with US manufacturing, especially in tech products.

[Swordmaker]

Apple sets more records - so expect the stock to take a dip... as pundits will pontificate that Apple should have done EVEN BETTER... LOL.

One ANAL-lyst, sent out a letter to his list of sycophants that Apple has been doing so good that they can't keep it up forever, so expect them to fail, that the iPhone can't compete against Android, and to sell. SHEESH!

[Swordmaker]

Communist China wouldn't exist without companies like Apple.

WOW! That's an amazing analysis. . . Apple's and other companies' contracting with a couple of TAIWANESE companies who have factories in China, employing one million workers in a country of 1.4 BILLION people wouldn't exist? Where did you get your degree in Economics, Ethan?

Do you seriously believe that 1,000,000 employees, or even a larger number, employed to supply Walmart's clothing demands, make a drop in the bucket to China's huge population? FoxConn's (Apple prime Taiwanese) contractor in China) total revenue for example was $16.4 Billion with profits of under $2 Billion.

It is Apple's and other companies' contracting with Capitalistic companies who do business in China that have broken the hold of the Communists on the economic planning in China. . . and offered the people of China economic freedom. Social and Political Freedom will follow. Communist China predated Apple and all those companies and existed without their intervention or trade for years. You don't know history, economics, or the pressures that economic freedoms can bring to bear.

China is no longer communist. Perhaps you just did not notice when it left communism behind. Frankly, It's most successful businesses are completely capitalist in nature. China embraced what worked when they realized that Communism did not work. They are just not Democratic in any way with their one party rule. Socialist is the best you can describe them as. . . building a Laissez Fair Capitalist economy in a strong private sector. I know it sounds strange, but they are not incompatible. The question is, can they keep it up?

It was once said that the best form of government was a benevolent dictator. However, there is no guarantee that you will get a successor who will be as benevolent.

[Swordmaker]

$52/hour for mindless assembly-line work in China? Amazing. What a place. Just imagine what CEOs and professional fanbuoys and their clones get paid. Have you and Cigar Reveler contemplated moving to China to enjoy the awesome standard of living?

Assembly line work is assembly line work no matter where it is done, Ethan. That is the equivalent pay rate. You can denigrate it all you like, but facts are facts. In real dollars, a company would rather pay the lower cost of living equivalent in China or elsewhere than the higher cost of living rate in the United States, so long as shipping costs do not eat up the differences. That, my friend, is Capitalism. Our government's multi-layer adversarial anti-business regulatory environment made the decisions to jump-ship easy for many companies in a world economic environment where US companies found themselves at a price disadvantage, add high local taxation on inventory and repeated law suits from self-appointed "environmentalists" delaying need and vital expansion, and it became a no brainer.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

China is no longer communist. Perhaps you just did not notice when it left communism behind.

So, according to you, Freepers should support Communist China because it is now a sturdy bulwark of right-wing conservatism. Americans who are worried about creeping leftism in the USA should contemplate moving to China, according to you.

[Swordmaker]

So, according to you, Freepers should support Communist China because it is now a sturdy bulwark of right-wing conservatism. Americans who are worried about creeping leftism in the USA should contemplate moving to China, according to you.

Don't put words in my mouth that I did not say. If I want to say that, I would have said it. I did not. Your implying I did is a lie, making you a liar. I don't engage in conversations with liars who distort my clearly articulated statements for their own ends. . . especially one who has no clue about economics and spouts buzz words.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

In real dollars, a company would rather pay the lower cost of living equivalent in China ... That, my friend, is Capitalism.

So, in your view, supporting the Chinese Communist system is what a good conservative should do, right?

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

It is Apple's and other companies' contracting with Capitalistic companies who do business in China that have broken the hold of the Communists on the economic planning in China. . . and offered the people of China economic freedom.

So, in your view, Apple has saved China from communism.

China is no longer communist. Perhaps you just did not notice when it left communism behind. Frankly, It's most successful businesses are completely capitalist in nature. China embraced what worked when they realized that Communism did not work.

Sounds like China is a budding paradise for conservatives. Coupled with a $52/hour wage for mindless assembly-line work, it's a real paradise. Are the fanbuoys packing their bags yet?

[Swordmaker]

So, in your view, Apple has saved China from communism. . .

Sounds like China is a budding paradise for conservatives. Coupled with a $52/hour wage for mindless assembly-line work, it's a real paradise. Are the fanbuoys packing their bags yet?

Look asshat. . . read what I told you before:

"Don't put words in my mouth that I did not say. If I want to say that, I would have said it. I did not. Your implying I did is a lie, making you a liar. I don't engage in conversations with liars who distort my clearly articulated statements for their own ends. . . especially one who has no clue about economics and spouts buzz words."

Or liars.