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Posted on 04/14/2015 2:10:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek

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To: VeniVidiVici

Well Patton carried his famous guns in the holsters but he also carried a. 32 or .38 in a shoulder holster. Watch the movie again and you can see it.


41 posted on 04/14/2015 7:00:50 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Thanks!


42 posted on 04/14/2015 7:17:17 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Hey, hey, GayKKK. Who you gonna lynch today?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; cripplecreek
My husband and I started watching "Turn" last season, but couldn't stand the modern-day slang and numerous confusing American / British / Irish / Scottish, etc. accents. I did DVR the 2-hour Season 2 premiere, but haven't watched it yet.. not sure if we want to watch it.

Is "Turn" worth watching overall? We just wince when we hear that modern-day slang in particular... kind of ruins the show for us.

I do appreciate FReepers' opinions of this show... thanks.

43 posted on 04/15/2015 9:59:14 AM PDT by nutmeg (Fight the GayStapo!!)
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To: nutmeg

I love the series, although I had a hard time getting hooked on Season 1. I think Season 2 is better crafted.


44 posted on 04/15/2015 10:03:20 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: nutmeg

I don’t know what modern day slang you are talking about and the accents are an accurate depiction.

There was an endless influx of British, Irish, Scotts, Dutch, Germans, and French so the accents remained fairly constant with their origins till after the war and separation. Different social classes also tended to speak differently.


45 posted on 04/15/2015 10:13:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: manc
"I like Vikings right now."

I tried to stick with it, but too much whispering and accents and slurred speech for my hearing aids.

Bye-bye.

Just finished Season 1 of TURN on Netflix. A little confusing at first but I settled in by season's end. I'll catch it this season as FReepers say it's better.

Thanks for links on the history -- although I have a few history books I'll have to dust off.

46 posted on 04/15/2015 2:10:04 PM PDT by grayeagle
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To: grayeagle

About to watch the last episode of cult and then try and find another series.


47 posted on 04/15/2015 2:23:42 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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Looking for a series?

Have you seen "House of Cards"? If not you may think: yeah, yeah another "West Wing". No this way beyond -- WW on steroids. You may think it is yet another political drama about democrats. Yes, it is all about democrats and their issues. But the characters are such sleazeballs it makes the democrats look bad! You may even recognize some of the tactics. This drama is not for the feint of heart -- anything and everything goes on.

Netflix has the first 3 seasons (comercial-free), 4th season is in production now. Kevin Spacey's defining role as an actor. It has a 5 star rating.

48 posted on 04/15/2015 11:15:02 PM PDT by grayeagle
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To: cripplecreek

Has Fios on demand changed? I can’t pull it up?


49 posted on 04/22/2015 2:54:55 PM PDT by STJPII
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To: cripplecreek; afraidfortherepublic; CatherineofAragon; rabidralph
I don’t know what modern day slang you are talking about and the accents are an accurate depiction.

There were many ridiculously modern slang phrases in Season 1 of "Turn", but I can't give concrete examples right now. A couple I noticed in the first few episodes of Season 2:

Abraham Woodhull to his father: "The truth is I've been bound up since Brooklyn, and I really need to take a sh*t right now."

Caleb Brewster to another character (about George Washington): "Aww... cut him some slack!"

Also: Some - not all - of the women characters wear make-up and hairstyles that look very 2015. Mary Woodhull's look is perfect, however. She resembles many 1776-era portraits of women we've seen in ancient homes here in New England. The blonde woman who was in Mary's sewing circle.. she looked ridiculous.

There was an endless influx of British, Irish, Scotts, Dutch, Germans, and French so the accents remained fairly constant with their origins till after the war and separation. Different social classes also tended to speak differently.

Yes, you are correct. A few accents from the characters on Turn bug me, though. One example:

Why does Abraham Woodhull have a British accent, but his father, Richard Woodhull, has what sounds like an American accent?

Turn is a good show overall, I just wish the director, producers, etc. would pay more attention to detail. Regardless of these annoyances, I do agree with you and others on this thread: Season 2 seems to be much better crafted than Season 1. Hubby and I are watching "Turn" on a regular basis again...

50 posted on 04/23/2015 9:31:16 AM PDT by nutmeg
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For what it's worth:

Reception: The first season of Turn: Washington's Spies received mixed reviews. Review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes gives the season a rating of 52%, based on 33 reviews, with an average rating of 6.3/10. The site's consensus reads, "Turn‍ '​s uneven treatment of the American Revolution is more frustrating than exciting and memorable."[14] On Metacritic, the first season has scored a 61 out of 100, based on 29 critics, indicating "generally favorable reviews".[15] The second season has received higher critical praise than the first season, scoring an 80% approval rating, based on 5 reviews, with an average rating of 7.2/10.[16] Metacritic scored the second season with 68 out of 100, based on 4 critics, indicating "generally favorable reviews", as well.[17]

Source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn:_Washington%27s_Spies

51 posted on 04/23/2015 9:34:58 AM PDT by nutmeg
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"The truth is I've been bound up since Brooklyn, and I really need to take a sh*t right now."

I don't know why you think Abraham wouldn't have said that. That certainly is a phrase that crops up in numerous English novels of the period. They wouldn't talk that way to women, but it's plausible addressed to men.

52 posted on 04/23/2015 9:48:06 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
That certainly is a phrase that crops up in numerous English novels of the period.

Really? I didn't know that. OK, I learned something new... thanks. ;-)

53 posted on 04/23/2015 9:54:45 AM PDT by nutmeg
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To: nutmeg

Actually, much of our modern slang is nowhere near modern and often didn’t even begin as english words.

Cut him/me some slack goes back to the 12th or 13th century or earlier. I believe its a bastardization of a French term for adjusting mooring lines so the forecastles of ships moored together would be aligned.

Take a shit is a bit more vague but the word appears to be an acronym for “Ship In High Transit” for ships that were intentionally lightly laden to avoid water getting into the hold and damaging perishable goods. Manure was one of those cargoes that was very valuable and carried dry both to increase the amount that could be carried and to decrease the risk of methane explosion. It would be carried in a ship in high transit to avoid wetting it and creating a dangerous methane build up.


54 posted on 04/23/2015 10:09:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: nutmeg; cripplecreek; afraidfortherepublic

Nutmeg, I just can’t get very worked up over those details. I’ll say what I always say when people criticize “The Walking Dead” for doing something wrong with firearms or survival methods-—it’s not a documentary.

On the whole, I think this show is very true to its time period, and accurate. Did you know John Andre really wore that little braid?

I try to keep in mind that there are not only history buffs watching the show, but people who are surfing channels and just happen to stop there. If the dialogue is too dry, they might keep going...ratings are always an issue.

Actually the only thing about “TURN” that bugs me is the delivery of the actor playing George Washington. I wish he would speak in a less breathy manner. But it’s not a deal-breaker.

I just went back and watched the scene with Mary’s sewing circle. I’m not quite getting why the blonde woman looked ridiculous. I know every period has its style, but not everyone follows style. The blonde’s hair was just sort of simply swept up and back.


55 posted on 04/23/2015 12:51:04 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: cripplecreek
Very interesting... thanks for your comments re: use of "modern slang" on Turn. I'm very interested in the origins of words and of languages themselves. Seems like that slang isn't so modern after all. ;-)
56 posted on 04/23/2015 4:59:57 PM PDT by nutmeg
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Benedict Arnold used the term “Grub Shite” which was probably more common of a usage at the time.

One new one I picked up from last season was “Chunder Bucket”. Apparently it comes from yelling “Watch Under” before dumping waste over the rail on a ship so no one would have their head out a port hole.


57 posted on 04/23/2015 5:07:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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