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Fracking Link? High Radon Levels Found in 300K Pennsylvania Homes
cnbc ^ | 4-9-2015 | Maggie Fox and Stacey Naggiar

Posted on 04/09/2015 6:21:05 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

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To: Buckeye McFrog
It’s the ROCKS, stupid!!

That's true, and in order for the radon gas to migrate into the basement of a house it has to pass through, or more likely come from the rocks right under the house.

Common sense and even a bit of knowledge about gas diffusion tells you that even if the fracking set loose a lot of radon a mile underground, those gas molecules are not going to migrate through a mile or more of solid rock very quickly. If ever. Particularly since at the level of the fracking the flow is out of the rock and into the well.

Anybody who paid attention in science class knows that diffusion goes in the same direction as bulk flow, so any radon released by the fracking would go in the same direction as the natural gas released by fracking.

21 posted on 04/09/2015 6:57:01 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: IMR 4350

Countdown to the argument that fracking causes Global Warming....

BTW, isn’t there an underground fire that’s perpetually burning around there? I’d think that would be more concerning than radon.


22 posted on 04/09/2015 6:59:05 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: FreeReign

Add NJ to the list. I lived in Base housing at Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst in the late 80’s and they came and put detectors in the rooms on the first floor. I moved out as soon as I could.


23 posted on 04/09/2015 7:04:43 AM PDT by Garvin (When it comes to my freedom, there will be no debate. There will be a fight)
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To: Citizen Zed

Staggie and Macey? Seriously, I, too, smell anti-fracking BS spewed by Pete and Repete, trying to turn that line of crap into more uninformed public opinion.


24 posted on 04/09/2015 7:07:42 AM PDT by W. (3 Disqus sites, nytimes.com, cheezburger.com and archive.org all censor conservatives.)
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To: freeandfreezing
Anybody who paid attention in science class knows that diffusion goes in the same direction as bulk flow, so any radon released by the fracking would go in the same direction as the natural gas released by fracking.

Shh, don't let the facts get in the way of the narrative. /sarc

25 posted on 04/09/2015 7:08:43 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Citizen Zed

Better exhume Snarlin’ Arlen.


26 posted on 04/09/2015 7:10:45 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: struggle

Common in Minnesota, too.


27 posted on 04/09/2015 7:12:11 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: Citizen Zed

Geez, Pennsylvania always had very high radon levels in their homes. It was epicenter of the Radon-detection movement.


28 posted on 04/09/2015 7:13:08 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Bratch

“Countdown to the argument that fracking causes Global Warming....”

Too late, already been claimed.

I think there are a couple of places in the US with underground fires in coal mines that will burn for around 100 years or more.


29 posted on 04/09/2015 7:13:19 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Citizen Zed

It was discovered in the 80s that the biggest driver of radon in PA was Jimmy Carters push for insulation in the homes. This created a way for the radon to rise up and accumulate in the house to dangerous levels.

Solution was to remove insulation and improve ventilation.

Mistakes of the past repeated again.


30 posted on 04/09/2015 7:13:22 AM PDT by dila813
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To: IMR 4350

LOL


31 posted on 04/09/2015 7:14:28 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Citizen Zed

See that red blog in the Northeast? That's central, south, and eastern pennsylvania. Yes, there's also a lot of radon in Iowa and the Red River valley of Minnesota. But that's where most people who have ultra-high levels of radon live.
32 posted on 04/09/2015 7:17:31 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
I'll try again.
33 posted on 04/09/2015 7:18:07 AM PDT by dangus
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To: smokingfrog
Apparently everyone in the purple zone is going to die someday.


34 posted on 04/09/2015 7:19:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Citizen Zed

Great news for lib lawmakers who can make Radon detectors mandatory in every room in every building.


35 posted on 04/09/2015 7:22:02 AM PDT by Baynative (You can judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: Citizen Zed
But they also noticed a trend over time. Depending on where in the homes the radon was measured, radon levels started inching up in either 2004 or 2006. And the trend was linked with just how much unconventional drilling was going on. This includes horizontal mines and hydraulic fracturing or fracking.

Granite can emit radon. Could be all the granite countertops that became so very trendy in the last 10 or so years. Or, it could be the ongoing obsession with preventing the tiniest air leak in houses for the purpose of saving energy. Radon gas in a house will dissipate unless the air is trapped within a house.

36 posted on 04/09/2015 7:23:03 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Citizen Zed
Radon map:p>

Fracking map:


37 posted on 04/09/2015 7:23:20 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Citizen Zed
Note that this does not appear to be longitudinal study where radon levels were measured at the same location in the same houses over a period of 20 0r 30 years. Rather, the study is apparently based upon increases in mean aggregate radon readings for all houses in the counties at issue over a period of years even though the number of houses and the location of the radon test within each house differ from year to year.

Even without fracking, radon readings are generally higher in houses built on shale formations, which is the same type of rock from which shale oil and gas come from in Pennsylvania. Thus, no one should be shocked that gas, oil, and high levels of radon are all found in the same areas.

So why the sudden “spike”? Could be that people move to where the jobs are and there are lots of jobs along the PA side of the PA/NY border thanks to the oil and gas industries. That means that more houses are being built in areas where there are high concentrations of radon — with or without fracking. In addition, there is more turnover of existing houses in these areas than there has been in decades as older people retire and move out of the area and sell there houses to a younger generation. Nearly every bank requires a radon test these days as a condition of the loan, which was not the case when many of these older houses were built and sold to the long-time owners.

The bottom line is there are more houses and housing turnovers in these areas and as a result there is more radon testing.

38 posted on 04/09/2015 7:24:03 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: pepsionice
That's another example if liberals and lawmakers rushing to implement a new rule or practice without thinking it through.

Back in the 80s the libs decided to save the forests by eliminating the use of paper shopping bags. Many of us argued at the time that bags can be made of recycled material, but replacing them with plastic would be disaster for land fills. Now they have their panties in a wad because of the non biodegradable plastic that has clogged the composting process in landfills. But the good news is they've moved past it all to personalized shopping bags - some even made with hemp.

39 posted on 04/09/2015 7:27:44 AM PDT by Baynative (You can judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: smokingfrog

Not even radon wants to hang out in Philly.


40 posted on 04/09/2015 7:27:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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