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Erol Incedal: Student being sentenced for possessing bomb manual
bbc ^ | 4-1-2015

Posted on 04/01/2015 8:18:46 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

A law student cleared of plotting a terror attack is being sentenced for possessing a bomb-making manual.

Erol Incedal, 27, from London, was acquitted of the terror plot last week - but was convicted last year of having a bomb-making manual on a memory card.

Most of the trial was held in secret and details of the accusation can still not be reported.

Incedal and his friend Mounir Rarmoul-Bouhadjar, also 27, are being sentenced by Mr Justice Nicol at the Old Bailey. Rarmoul-Bouhadjar admitted having a manual identical to the one found in Incedal's possession.

At the beginning of the sentencing process, the court heard that both men had crossed into Syria in 2013 and stayed with jihadists.

Richard Whittam QC, prosecuting, said the men were carrying memory cards with bomb-making plans when they were arrested.

Some of these plans were viable and some were "farcical", he said.

Counsel for Incedal, Joel Bennathan QC, said his client's visit to the Turkish/Syrian border had been lawful and he could not be sentenced for that.

He said Incedal's acquittal on the bomb plot charges meant his sentence for possessing bomb-making plans must be on the basis that he was not a terrorist.

The case involving the two men became a legal first after an attempt by the Crown Prosecution Service to hold the entire trial in secret was scuppered by a media challenge at the High Court.

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Secret accusations and a secret trial? A few years back Obama and Holder would have called this a slippery slope. But today the Obama Administration is too busy trying to remember yesterday's lies to comment on such issues.
1 posted on 04/01/2015 8:18:46 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Well, this is from the UK, where you can apparently be prosecuting for owning a book (even though all the British people I talk to still try to claim they have freedom).


2 posted on 04/01/2015 8:29:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman; Citizen Zed

I’m wondering if you can now be prosecuted in the U.S. for possessing such material. I can still find stuff on the internet.


3 posted on 04/01/2015 8:42:03 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Boogieman
better not buy these:




4 posted on 04/01/2015 8:43:27 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: DannyTN

Look above what is on Amazon.


5 posted on 04/01/2015 8:43:51 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: DannyTN
I can still find stuff on the internet.

Finding it on the internet will not make it legal.

6 posted on 04/01/2015 8:49:22 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Yeah, there is a lot available. But I just wonder if the laws have changed enough since the patriot act, that an individual possessing such material could be construed as a crime?


7 posted on 04/01/2015 8:49:28 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Citizen Zed

All they need to arrest you is to find a copy of any Tom Clancy novel!


8 posted on 04/01/2015 8:50:21 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: thackney
"Finding it on the internet will not make it legal."

True, but are there laws in the U.S. that make it illegal?

9 posted on 04/01/2015 8:50:21 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

I suspect, but do not know, that only possessing the information is not a crime.

But I also expect, that if the information is found along with other information or acts that show intent to cause harm, it would easily be admissible in a courtroom as additional proof of intent to harm.


10 posted on 04/01/2015 8:53:07 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DannyTN

They don’t need a crime to arrest you anymore.


11 posted on 04/01/2015 8:55:33 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: DannyTN

No, it is not illegal to own books in the U.S. (yet).


12 posted on 04/01/2015 9:01:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: thackney

Not to mention that the media will report you as a right wing nutcase that was in possession of an arsenal and an extensive library on bombmaking when all you had was a slingshot and an internet article on how to make a coke bottle/mento explosion.


13 posted on 04/01/2015 9:19:13 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Used to have a copy of the Anarchists’ Cookbook.


14 posted on 04/01/2015 12:21:39 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Citizen Zed

oh by the way.....

this is availbale from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Anarchist-Cookbook-William-Powell/dp/1502994380


15 posted on 04/01/2015 2:30:45 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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