Posted on 04/01/2015 8:18:46 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
A law student cleared of plotting a terror attack is being sentenced for possessing a bomb-making manual.
Erol Incedal, 27, from London, was acquitted of the terror plot last week - but was convicted last year of having a bomb-making manual on a memory card.
Most of the trial was held in secret and details of the accusation can still not be reported.
Incedal and his friend Mounir Rarmoul-Bouhadjar, also 27, are being sentenced by Mr Justice Nicol at the Old Bailey. Rarmoul-Bouhadjar admitted having a manual identical to the one found in Incedal's possession.
At the beginning of the sentencing process, the court heard that both men had crossed into Syria in 2013 and stayed with jihadists.
Richard Whittam QC, prosecuting, said the men were carrying memory cards with bomb-making plans when they were arrested.
Some of these plans were viable and some were "farcical", he said.
Counsel for Incedal, Joel Bennathan QC, said his client's visit to the Turkish/Syrian border had been lawful and he could not be sentenced for that.
He said Incedal's acquittal on the bomb plot charges meant his sentence for possessing bomb-making plans must be on the basis that he was not a terrorist.
The case involving the two men became a legal first after an attempt by the Crown Prosecution Service to hold the entire trial in secret was scuppered by a media challenge at the High Court.
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Well, this is from the UK, where you can apparently be prosecuting for owning a book (even though all the British people I talk to still try to claim they have freedom).
I’m wondering if you can now be prosecuted in the U.S. for possessing such material. I can still find stuff on the internet.
Look above what is on Amazon.
Finding it on the internet will not make it legal.
Yeah, there is a lot available. But I just wonder if the laws have changed enough since the patriot act, that an individual possessing such material could be construed as a crime?
All they need to arrest you is to find a copy of any Tom Clancy novel!
True, but are there laws in the U.S. that make it illegal?
I suspect, but do not know, that only possessing the information is not a crime.
But I also expect, that if the information is found along with other information or acts that show intent to cause harm, it would easily be admissible in a courtroom as additional proof of intent to harm.
They don’t need a crime to arrest you anymore.
No, it is not illegal to own books in the U.S. (yet).
Not to mention that the media will report you as a right wing nutcase that was in possession of an arsenal and an extensive library on bombmaking when all you had was a slingshot and an internet article on how to make a coke bottle/mento explosion.
Used to have a copy of the Anarchists’ Cookbook.
oh by the way.....
this is availbale from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Anarchist-Cookbook-William-Powell/dp/1502994380
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