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On Eve of Possible Deal, Israel Shows Off Latest Sub
Washington Free Beacon ^ | 3-30-2015 | Abraham Rabinovich

Posted on 03/30/2015 10:59:50 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

JERUSALEM—With a possible agreement on Iran’s nuclear program approaching, the Israeli navy today hosted military reporters on a tour of its latest submarine, part of an underwater fleet reportedly armed with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles that will serve as Israel’s major deterrent against a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic.

The submarine, the INS Tanin is one of five acquired from Germany in the past two decades.

According to foreign reports, cruise missiles aboard the vessels have a range of close to 1,000 miles and can carry nuclear warheads. Capable of extended stays at sea, one or more of submarines would likely always be within range of Iran.

Although Israel is reported to have some 80 nuclear weapons, these are seen only as “doomsday” options.

Meir Dagan, a former Mossad chief who opposed a preemptive Israeli air strike against Iran’s nuclear facilities, has said that such an attack should be carried out “only when the sword is at the throat.” Although the prospect of an Iranian nuclear weapon has raised fears in Israel, many find comfort in the second-strike capability provided by the submarines that, they believe, make it unlikely that Iran would attack Israel with nuclear weapons.

Although Israel still presumably has the ability to derail the Iranian program by a conventional air attack, it is now considered doubtful that it will attempt such an operation. If Tehran strikes a deal, an Israeli preemptive attack is considered even more unlikely since that would mean challenging not only Iran but the U.S. and its European allies.

The first two of the Dolphin-class vessels, among the most sophisticated conventionally powered submarines in the world, were fully paid for by Germany. Ostensibly, this was because of revelations after the first Gulf War in 1991 that German firms had assisted Iraq in modernizing its missile arsenal, which was used to target Israel. It was widely believed that guilt stemming from the Holocaust also played a part in Germany’s decision.

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What will Germany do next?
1 posted on 03/30/2015 10:59:50 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

A preemptive nuclear strike on Tehran probably wouldn’t be a bad idea. The Israelis needs to slap Iran before Iran has a chance to slap them.


2 posted on 03/30/2015 11:03:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I want to be America's first, historical, male first lady." - Slick Willie)
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To: Citizen Zed

80? Hahahahaha! Someone lost a zero somewhere. And guess what? They have thermonuclear and nuclear weapons.


3 posted on 03/30/2015 11:16:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://www.tedcruz.org/donate/)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

"If a man doesn't strike first, he will be struck first"
Athengoras of Syracuse



4 posted on 03/30/2015 11:18:53 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Citizen Zed
Aboard the quietest submarine in the world
5 posted on 03/30/2015 11:22:06 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Ted Cruz 2016!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A preemptive nuclear strike?

Easy to suggest that but I don't think so. Bibi and Moshe Ya'alon aren't that stupid to even think so. Iranian infrastructures are deep scattered underground. If Iran would try, Israelis got the finger of G-d in their side all the time.

6 posted on 03/30/2015 11:24:50 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: Citizen Zed

Interesting question when looking at Germany’s past. This could be a real conundrum for them. Their citizens are showing the same animosity toward the Jews in the past it seems... Old hatreds die hard I guess...

Worse, the US seems to be catching the same disease...so maybe the Bible was right, all nations will turn against Israel (thanks to Obama).


7 posted on 03/30/2015 11:44:46 PM PDT by Deagle (ui)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I'm not sure if it would have to be a nuclear strike by the israelis, would it? Why not just destroy the Mullah government in Tehran -- couldn't the Iranian people do the rest once they were gone? The people tried to revolt against them already, but thanks to Obama, they weren't able to go very far.
8 posted on 03/30/2015 11:53:52 PM PDT by Liberty1st
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To: Citizen Zed

Israel has far more advanced capabilities than any of these articles discuss, of course. But ... her stategy is deterrence. This requires the enemy to care about staying alive. It is not all that clear the IslamoNazis do.
Therefore, Israel may be forced to do an advance defensive strike first. This, every Isareli government has (desperately and at great risk) tried to avoid.

We will see...
Obama/Kerry appear to really be setting the stage for a major world-class war (especially as their Iranian IslamoNazi “friends” plan to attack America first and foremost...)


9 posted on 03/30/2015 11:54:21 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Foolish people ... have eyes and see not)
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> Although Israel is reported to have some 80 nuclear weapons, these are seen only as “doomsday” options.

Doomsday is here....brought to you by Satan’s representatives on earth - Obama and Soros...the latter of which I wonder why someone hasn’t taken out due to his continuous meddling with and manipulating whole governments. I guess his bribery payouts cover a lot of sins...


10 posted on 03/31/2015 12:26:06 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Well Soros is certainly not short of funds


11 posted on 03/31/2015 12:32:13 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Foolish people ... have eyes and see not)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A preemptive nuclear strike on Tehran probably wouldn’t be a bad idea. The Israelis needs to slap Iran before Iran has a chance to slap them.

Hear hear.

12 posted on 03/31/2015 1:50:30 AM PDT by Captainpaintball (Immigration without assimilation is the death of a nation -- FUJB!!!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Quit the delay Bibi,
Nuke iran.


13 posted on 03/31/2015 2:35:10 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Bibi, as representing Israel, will play his hand as he is guided by Almighty God. God is not through with Israel. Not by a long shot.

When Christ returns He will touch down on the Mount of Olives. All Israel will be Saved in 1 day, when they “look upon Him Whom they have pierced” and realize that their ancestors crucified their Messiah.

Jerusalem will be the Capitol of Planet Earth during the Millennium. Not to worry. This is all working out as foretold by Christ and the prophets. Your and my only concern right now is to be sure we’re right with God, and to share the gospel with others so that they can be ready, too.


14 posted on 03/31/2015 3:22:53 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Liberty1st
The people tried to revolt against them already, but thanks to Obama, they weren't able to go very far.

So, in essence, the problem is not the Mullahs in Tehran but Obama in Washington. Right?

15 posted on 03/31/2015 4:26:11 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: Tucker39

Tucker,

Your words are measured, thoughtful and knowing. Please continue to speak the truth for the right reasons are the right times.

In my opinion, this is how it will play out later this year.

https://unsealedprophecy.wordpress.com/2014/11/24/psalm-83-war-september-2015/


16 posted on 03/31/2015 4:43:03 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: hamboy

“Bibi and Moshe Ya’alon aren’t that stupid to even think so. Iranian infrastructures are deep scattered underground.”

Would you trust the quality of Russian construction?


17 posted on 03/31/2015 6:07:01 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I am quite sure that O’Slimeball’s head is about to blow plum off over this little publicity stunt. His head is blowing steam out his ears trying to relieve the pressure.


18 posted on 03/31/2015 6:07:23 AM PDT by biff (Et Tu Boeh-ner)
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To: varon

“So, in essence, the problem is not the Mullahs in Tehran but Obama in Washington. Right? “

I wouldn’t say Obama. But I would say Iranian born Valerie Jarrett might have a hand in this.


19 posted on 03/31/2015 6:08:37 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: varon

Where did you get THAT ridiculous idea? If the problem wasn’t the Mullahs, then the people wouldn’t have tried to revolt against them in the 1st place a few years ago. DUH!!!

For some reason, Obama refused to help them, & the movement was crushed. Our Israeli friends might not be having to ask themselves about attacking Iran today (& the discussion of a possible nuclear arms race in Saudi Arabia & other Sunni countries in the region) might not be taking place right now had that revolution been successful.

There is no doubt in mu mind that Obama IS part of the problem, however. Obama is trying to transform the Middle East like like he is trying to do to America. He has turned away from our friends, insulted them, even.

I also point the finger at Ronald Reagan. Imagine if he, as a way if saying “thank you” for getting our hostages back, had destroyed the Iranian government back in 1981. That’s what I would have done. I would have killed not only the Supreme Leader, but also the government that answers only to him. The Iranian nuclear dreams could have been nipped in the bud 30 years ago.


20 posted on 03/31/2015 8:08:33 AM PDT by Liberty1st
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