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Poll: Spend more, tax less, legalize pot (General Social Survey stuff)
Associated Press ^ | Mar 20, 2015 8:48 PM EDT | Emily Swanson

Posted on 03/20/2015 6:49:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Americans want lower taxes and more government spending both at once, although their support for spending more tax dollars on health care has dropped dramatically. They’re likelier than ever to not feel connected to any particular religion, but no less likely to believe in God. And for the first time, most want to legalize marijuana.

Those are among findings from the 2014 General Social Survey, which has been measuring trends in American opinion and behavior since 1972. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: cannabis; govtspending; gss; marijuana; pot; taxes; wod

1 posted on 03/20/2015 6:49:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Wow. So the public wants deficits even BIGGER than Mr. Moneybags? I think they’re going to have to invent a term beyond “trillion” to describe them at that point. Maybe “brazilian”.


2 posted on 03/20/2015 6:53:42 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Olog-hai

Legalizing marijuana is less important that legalizing hemp, which could be a multi-billion dollar industry within a decade. A serious cash crop that can be grown on marginal farmland, so won’t reduce agricultural production like the ethanol debacle.

Perhaps its biggest immediate advantage will be in producing high grade, durable paper. Most of the literature of the 20th Century will have to be reprinted on hemp before its acidic wood pulp paper disintegrates.

Plus, by reducing the amount of wood used to make paper pulp there will be more of its other products at lower cost, like lumber. Paper as an industry is currently so big that it is an entire stock market sector.


3 posted on 03/20/2015 7:11:05 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Still Thinking

The term is QUADRILLION


4 posted on 03/20/2015 8:18:52 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB

Yeah I know, just trying to be a smart-azz.k


5 posted on 03/20/2015 8:21:52 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Olog-hai
Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

Add the tens of millions of government pensioners.

Obvious conclusion: most Americans who have good incomes are socialist potheads. That's why both political parties are pandering to the same constituency.


6 posted on 03/20/2015 8:32:12 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Still Thinking

No, I’d say they don’t understand where the money government comes from. As far as they are concerned they just print it. Thus they can print it, spend more and tax less. Plus they are obviously stoned most of the time as well.


7 posted on 03/20/2015 8:41:40 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong
should say - where the money government spends comes from
8 posted on 03/20/2015 8:43:51 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"Legalizing marijuana is less important that legalizing hemp"

After which straights should get big bags of hemp pollen, get upwind from rich pot crops and see how the potheads like smoking some real rope.

;-)


9 posted on 03/20/2015 8:51:14 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Still Thinking

OK; Ya got me. :)


10 posted on 03/20/2015 9:15:37 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: familyop
After which straights should get big bags of hemp pollen, get upwind from rich pot crops and see how the potheads like smoking some real rope.

Now there's an idea for a reality TV show. Hemp Wars!

11 posted on 03/20/2015 11:34:10 PM PDT by Ken H (DILLIGAF)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Forgive me if I am wrong, but wasn’t industrial hemp re-legalized nationwide in the CROMNIBUS bill that was passed by Congress & signed into law last December?

IIRC, that same bill told the Feds to back off & not go after the States that re-legalized marijuana for medical use. It didn’t go nearly as far as I would like for it to have gone, but IMHO that’s a positive sign.


12 posted on 03/20/2015 11:59:57 PM PDT by Liberty1st
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To: familyop

Thank God for hydroponics! :-)


13 posted on 03/20/2015 11:59:57 PM PDT by Liberty1st
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To: Liberty1st
The CARERS Act would turn that over to the states =>

“(b) Compliance With State Law. —Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the provisions of this title relating to marihuana shall not apply to any person acting in compliance with State law relating to the production, possession, distribution, dispensation, administration, laboratory testing, or delivery of medical marihuana.”

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/683/text

14 posted on 03/21/2015 12:45:48 AM PDT by Ken H (DILLIGAF)
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To: Liberty1st
Forgive me if I am wrong, but wasn’t industrial hemp re-legalized nationwide in the CROMNIBUS bill that was passed by Congress & signed into law last December?

Didn't that just legalize hemp at the federal level and leave the decision to the states?

15 posted on 03/21/2015 12:58:20 AM PDT by Ken H (DILLIGAF)
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To: familyop

That’s an important point. Hemp pollen is a profound enemy to marijuana, and will substantially reduce the potency of the seed produced by the marijuana plants, so when grown they will produce far less of the drug. Reversing decades of selective breeding to produce more potent strains.


16 posted on 03/21/2015 6:57:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Liberty1st

Yes, indeed. But the wood pulp paper lobby is dead set against legalizing hemp, even though they would be the optimal producer of hemp paper. As is the cotton industry, as the refined, silk-like hemp cloth would also likely put pressure on them as well.


17 posted on 03/21/2015 7:01:02 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Ken H
As long as that was done, I will be satisfied. Personally, I don't care what the States do. I would love to see 50 different laws for the 50 States (not to mention DC & other areas such as PR, VI, etc.). Just get the Feds out of it & let the 9th & 10th Amendments do the work.
18 posted on 03/21/2015 10:17:38 AM PDT by Liberty1st
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To: Ken H
Thank you.

How much longer do you believe that it will be for the Feds to end marijuana prohibition altogether & give the recreational use of marijuana back to the States: 5 yrs? 10 yrs? Sooner (which I am hoping for, I'm beginning to get a lil impatient)?

Not only will Congress have to repeal anti-marijuana laws that have been w/ us since the Progressive Era 80+ yrs ago, it will also have to amend or eliminate treaties via the necessary 2/3 of the Senate, & I'm not sure how easy that will be.

It IS safe to say that the wind is at our backs & we are not fighting an uphill battle anymore, correct?

19 posted on 03/21/2015 11:14:03 AM PDT by Liberty1st
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To: Liberty1st
How much longer do you believe that it will be for the Feds to end marijuana prohibition altogether & give the recreational use of marijuana back to the States: 5 yrs? 10 yrs? Sooner (which I am hoping for, I'm beginning to get a lil impatient)?

My best guess is 2 or 3 more elections, so about 5 yrs. If marijuana has a smashing year at the polls in 2016 like it did in 2014, maybe sooner.

Not only will Congress have to repeal anti-marijuana laws that have been w/ us since the Progressive Era 80+ yrs ago, it will also have to amend or eliminate treaties via the necessary 2/3 of the Senate, & I'm not sure how easy that will be.

Just takes one simple piece of legislation to turn it back to the states, like the CARERS Act would do for medical marijuana. As for the UN, meh. Fedgov has no more authority to sign away the Tenth Amendment by treaty than it does the Second Amendment.

It IS safe to say that the wind is at our backs & we are not fighting an uphill battle anymore, correct?

Correct. Support for legal mj is highly concentrated among young voters, while opposition is highly concentrated among the old. The exit polls for the FL medical marijuana measure last Nov. demonstrate this* =>

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Ages ==> Yes/No

18-29 => 79/21

30-44 => 65/35

45-64 => 60/40

65 + ==> 38/62

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/2014/FL/I1/exitpoll

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*The measure needed 60% but fell just short at 58%,

20 posted on 03/21/2015 3:37:36 PM PDT by Ken H (DILLIGAF)
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