[smokingfrog]

It’s a nice novelty item.

[Jet Jaguar]

[OKSooner]

Sorry to hear about your bad experience, I hope you don't have a lot of money in it.

If derringers happen to be your thing, have a look at Bond Arms:

http://bondarms.com/

[clee1]

They are notorious junk. As bad as Raven etc.

[kingu]

I’m just curious, as I’ve been out of the industry for a while now - why didn’t your dealer handle this for you? Should take but a brief moment for the dealer’s gunsmith to isolate the issue and have a replacement part shipped. There’s not a lot of hardware in that gun.

I would never have imagined telling a customer ‘eh, your problem, you mail it back to the manufacturer for repair.’

[yarddog]

Around 1990 I bought a North American Arms .22 mini revolver.

It was a beauty and fired just fine but all the bullets keyholed. When I got ready to clean it, I realized the rifling did not quite go all the way to the muzzle. Maybe the last 1/10 inch was not rifled.

My dealer returned it to them and they fixed it with no problem but I can’t believe it got out of the factory like that.

[ExSoldier]

How much did you spend on the purchase, if I might ask? I was just wondering how much you thought your life was worth. I'm not being derisive, but as an NRA certified Instructor for these last 25+ years, I'm continually surprised by peoples self defense decision making processes.

[golux]

This ugly, innacurate, innefective, cheap weapon

you were going to carry every day



I think I will cry now.

[fso301]

Aren’t you supposed to use a wooden dowel to remove spent casings?

[Chainmail]

I have a High Standard derringer in .22 Mag and it works fine but the rifled portion of the barrel is so shallow and short that the bullets keyhole at anything beyond a couple of feet. Not a whole lot better than a knife.

It sounds like your chambers need to be polished - can’t imagine the fired brass could stick that hard in the chambers unless they are loaded with tool marks.

[KoRn]

Not sure why anyone would even have a ‘Derringer’ type handgun, except for a paperweight or a conversation piece. People have different tastes I guess.

To me, they are little more than metal toys that happen to fire projectiles. If one is looking for a ‘small’ defensive weapon, get a damn short hammerless revolver in a .357. Ruger makes some good ones.

[chrisinoc]

I looked at one of their other firearms, a Patriot 0.45 ACP. I thought it was a low budget and passed on it.

[fso301]

Hicock45 uses a dowel to extract spent casings.Watch at the 5:50 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJSv9HRioP0

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Need more info.

What caliber?
Shooting factory, non+P ammo?
Do you have the hammer in the half position to load and unload?

[JJ_Folderol]

Try steel cased ammo. It doesn’t expand like brass cased ammo does in an ill-fitting chamber.

Steel-cased solved an extraction problem with a friend’s Indian army surplus Enfield where it took excessive force to eject brass cases.

Academy Sports (local here in Texas) carries Monarch ammo as a house brand. It’s Russian made, steel-cased and uses a copper-washed, steel jacketed round that worked perfectly in my S&W 9mm (until it fell out of the boat.)

[Tijeras_Slim]

Stick with proven products, there’s a whole graveyard of US gun makers who produced nothing but crap.

[Polynikes]

Just get something like a Taurus PT22. Its essentially a 8+1 derringer and you can't hit much beyond 10ft. The weapon is mouse/belly gun category. It is pretty much a contact range weapon like a derringer and far more reliable. Even though it is 22LR, 3-4 quick rounds into a soft area like groin,neck or throat should tip the scales. Backed up with a blade you should be good to go at least in the short term.

Its concealability,multi shot capacity and surprise value are better than nothing. If you want a step up in quality go to the Berreta 21A Bobcat. I called it my ATM gun at least until that damn canoe tipped over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpRM-IKl8-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYsrE8wpuEw

[SkyDancer]

I like my small Beretta Tomcat in.32acp - very concealable. And also the flip barrel is a great feature making it easy to clean.

[SkyDancer]

PS - it’s loaded alternately with Glaser Safeties and Hydra-shocks.

[broken_arrow1]

Maybe I am dating myself, but I still have fond memories of a toy gun derringer that was embedded in a belt buckle. You pushed out your tummy (I don't need to push very much these days...), and the gun would pop forward from the resting position to shoot out at an unsuspecting bad guy. Maybe manufactured and sold by toy maker Mattel in the early 1960's? I wish I at least had a picture of that prized possession...