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I think that Star Trek is communistic and Star Wars is free market capitalism.
1 posted on 02/24/2015 9:34:40 PM PST by Citizen Zed
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Star Trek is fiction.

The Picard winery-restaurant scenario depicted is called barter. Money was invented to overcome the limitations of barter.


2 posted on 02/24/2015 9:42:13 PM PST by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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3 posted on 02/24/2015 9:42:50 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Currency has been abolished and poverty is a thing of the past. No one is in want.

Human nature is focused on higher pursuits than materialistic consumption and satisfaction.


5 posted on 02/24/2015 9:45:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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If the Star Trek writers had any understanding of economics they’d depict the Ferengi ruling the galaxy.


6 posted on 02/24/2015 9:48:54 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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Star Trek: DS9 was the best series on realism in that arena.


8 posted on 02/24/2015 9:50:06 PM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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>>I think that Star Trek is communistic and Star Wars is free market capitalism.<<

Based on the article, Star Trek is set in Compton.

And there is NO universe that will let a child be at the helm of a Star Ship with nearly 1,000 people aboard.

Roddenberry always said — place it in today’s world. Picture a 13-YO brat helming an Air Craft Carrier (or a Destroyer or an LTR).


9 posted on 02/24/2015 9:50:57 PM PST by freedumb2003 (obama is a "protected class" of dumb)
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Leftists are really at heart supremacists as this silly piece illustrates they almost always believe that regardless of how worthless they really are or deluded they think that they would be the “Picards”. That they represent the best of us and deserve the best seats at all the French restaurants because they are just so naturally wonderful, likable, cool and shit. Cause what is a more cool than throwing in gratuitous profanity? Who cares if their idea of a venus de milo is a transvestite Michael Moore.

They dream of a better world where they can write awful novels that no one wants to read and paint art that is indistinguishable from explosive diarrhea. The irony is they wouldn’t let something like Starfleet exist because the fiction Starfleet was a meritocracy. You didn’t get in just because you tried hard. Could you imagine a bunch of left wingers in Starfleet negotiating with Klingons to give peace a chance?


10 posted on 02/24/2015 9:51:45 PM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry of "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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I think Next Generation stated that they lived in a post-scarcity society, meaning our understanding of economics is outdated.

Although you can tell the writers had anti-Capitalist leanings.


11 posted on 02/24/2015 9:53:23 PM PST by Shadow44
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Star trek is cool, and intelligent, Star wars is for children who need a monarch.


15 posted on 02/24/2015 10:01:28 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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Corporeal beings were always deeply flawed and had to look to humans for object lessons on how to redeem themselves. If a life form was of a higher order or possessed superior virtues, it was depicted as a display of energy.

I'm pretty sure the Federation ended when the last citizen died of starvation playing on a holodeck.
28 posted on 02/24/2015 10:22:14 PM PST by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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Captain Kirk reacts to Miley Cyrus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Lb3kFwJRQ


40 posted on 02/24/2015 11:15:00 PM PST by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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There a set of term i use for two styles of writing sci-fy..

thought experiments vs masturbation fantasies...

Star Trek the original series best writing was thought experiments .realistic hard choices and unhappy endings....

conversely Next Generation was idiotic masturbation fantasies

all the troubles of life were solved just because the writer decided to say they were solved


46 posted on 02/25/2015 12:30:12 AM PST by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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I don't think we are imaginative enough to understand the economy of a society that has abolished material want.

The replicators on Star Trek can make any material object, from food to clothing to sundries. Power is supplied by matter-antimatter reactions and is likewise abundant, having near-zero cost. Things that are infinitely abundant are infinitely cheap. What would have value in such a society?

One can imagine ideas and service would be the value commodities of the Star Trek universe. How would such a knowledge- and service-based economy work? Not sure.

I would bet 3000 quatloos against it being any kind of economic system that we would recognize.

47 posted on 02/25/2015 12:35:51 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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I have actually wondered about that many times. They don't have pockets and you never hear talk of money. If you have matter-antimatter, then you have all the power you need for anything at all, and if you have replicators, you can make anything you want, and if it's free, and no Democrats control it, then maybe you would have free everything for everybody. I dunno. What puzzles me is: no real visible force of laborBots, or anything like that.

Oh, wait...it's not real....

48 posted on 02/25/2015 1:57:57 AM PST by Reverend Saltine (Don't say, "the administration," or "the EPA"--say "OBAMA." Give him full credit)
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With the introduction of the replicator, anybody could make anything. Except Captain Kirk.He never had enough replacement parts.
When mankind’s every need is met with the push of a button, we’ll have utopia.
Believe it or not, we’re there right now. The singularity (google it)is happening as we speak. Hold on for a wild ride that’ll make your old heads spin.


50 posted on 02/25/2015 2:56:47 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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Of course it is. What else would it be? It’s science fiction.


52 posted on 02/25/2015 3:42:55 AM PST by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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I think the things about the “Star Trek” world that drive the economy is cheap energy and the ability to transform elements from one form to another. You can create food from “nothing” and you can manufacture anything you need.

It has nothing to do with being communist.


59 posted on 02/25/2015 5:01:11 AM PST by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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If we all had replicators we wouldn't need money.


61 posted on 02/25/2015 5:26:08 AM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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Of the five television series, four of them dealt mainly with Starfleet personnel and their dependents. The other one, Deep Space Nine, featured civilian business owners, mainly a restaurateur and a tailor. Aside from their extracurricular activities, both of them provided something handmade in an era of perfect replication. There is also the question of exchange. In the series, they used something called Latinum, which was used informally, as well as for exchanges that the participants did not want tracked.
Trying to see the world of the 24th century on the Star Trek series would be like trying to view the early 21 21st century exclusively through NCIS.


69 posted on 02/25/2015 11:31:14 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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Once you have replicators most of your population becomes unemployable, but providing for them is very easy. So yes, it’s a welfare state.


72 posted on 02/25/2015 1:07:35 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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