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Haydn - the poor man’s Mozart?
The Guardian ^ | 2/18/2015 | Richard Wigmore

Posted on 02/21/2015 5:18:31 PM PST by Borges

In the two centuries since his death Joseph Haydn has been scandalously underrated, argues Richard Wigmore.

In December 1790, shortly before Haydn's departure for England and the greatest adventure of his life, he, Mozart and the impresario Johann Peter Salomon met for a dinner at a Viennese tavern. The mood was convivial, though Mozart, the seasoned, cosmopolitan traveller, expressed concern for his 58 year-old friend in London. ‘You have too little experience of the great world, and you speak too few languages.’ To which Haydn countered, with magnificent, ingenuous confidence: ‘My language is understood throughout the whole world.’

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1 posted on 02/21/2015 5:18:31 PM PST by Borges
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To: .30Carbine; 1cewolf; 1rudeboy; 31R1O; ADemocratNoMore; afraidfortherepublic; alarm rider; ...

Classical Ping


2 posted on 02/21/2015 5:19:36 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

That whole period produced some amazing music, they lived in interesting times...as we do, for very different reasons.


3 posted on 02/21/2015 5:26:12 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Borges

I quite enjoy Haydn’s symphonies, masses, quartets and cello concertos. He need not take a back seat to any composer.


4 posted on 02/21/2015 5:29:20 PM PST by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Borges

He was a giant. The rich man’s Haydn.


5 posted on 02/21/2015 5:40:50 PM PST by ModelBreaker (')
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To: Borges

Most if not all “kids” these days have never heard of or listened to classical. Their musical history starts at 2001.


6 posted on 02/21/2015 5:46:03 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Borges
I know some people will disagree, but I like Haydn more than Mozart. (Less than Beethoven, though.)

(And this article reminds me: I ought to listen to some more Vivaldi soon.)

7 posted on 02/21/2015 5:49:31 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Borges

To me, Haydn sounds like Mozart pre K. 300 and below. Mozart perfected his style and went far beyond.


8 posted on 02/21/2015 6:03:32 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Borges

I love classical music. I don’t think I really prefer one composer over another. Any one of them are superior to the modern “artists” that sneeze out lyrics and past them off as music.


9 posted on 02/21/2015 6:27:13 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." -George Washington)
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To: Borges

Haydn - Trumpet Concerto In E-flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUZYoVw7moc


10 posted on 02/21/2015 6:36:53 PM PST by RebelTex (Soli Deo Gloria, "To God alone the glory")
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To: Borges

Love them both...leave them alone! Shut up and enjoy the music...sheesh.


11 posted on 02/21/2015 6:53:15 PM PST by matginzac
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To: matginzac
Calm thyself:

http://www.accuradio.com/keyword/Haydn/
12 posted on 02/21/2015 6:58:09 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Tainan

Ah, serenity reigneth in my world...thanks....


13 posted on 02/21/2015 7:32:30 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Politicalkiddo

*pass them


14 posted on 02/21/2015 8:24:20 PM PST by Politicalkiddo ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." -George Washington)
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To: RebelTex

Thanks for the post. She’s very good.


15 posted on 02/21/2015 8:27:10 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Borges

Beethoven. Then Mozart (by a grace note). Then Haydn.

More than 100 symphonies and each one a masterpiece of clockwork precision.


16 posted on 02/21/2015 8:37:48 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Borges

IMO, a very poor man’s Mozart. His instrumental music is too simple for my taste; I do really enjoy his choral works, though. For me, Bach and Beethoven in a dead heat, then Mozart, Shubert and Chopin and then Dvorak. Yes, Dvorak.


17 posted on 02/21/2015 8:55:21 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Dallas59

“Most if not all “kids” these days have never heard of or listened to classical. Their musical history starts at 2001.”

I remember talking/ slight complaining to a much older gal at church about the “rap” that the sunday school kids did.

She said “Oh - it was that way when I was a kid too.”

I said “Huh? What music did you like that your parents didn’t?”

“Us kids all loved the Big Band music. But the parents liked symphony music. My dad said that the horns were from the Devil!”


18 posted on 02/21/2015 9:06:55 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 21twelve

I wonder if her dad knew that Mozart wrote Horn concertos?


19 posted on 02/21/2015 9:10:53 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
Something Harold Schonberg wrote about Haydn has stuck in my mind for years,

In short, Haydn was a well-adjusted man, and it shows in his music. It is hard to think of the music of any composer that is so free of the neurotic (probably the only comparable body of music in this respect would be Dyorak's). Haydn's music is always sane and healthy.

20 posted on 02/22/2015 4:10:25 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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