Posted on 02/06/2015 9:59:27 PM PST by SkyPilot
You're a woman, aren't you?
Khera has the right concern, just wish he’d act on it. Muslims SHOULD be ashamed to be Muslim.
Jesus doesn’t think He’s Barack Obama.
Let me guess: You’re a liberal, aren’t you? what with that bit of misogyny oozing out. BTW, your guess is wrong.
You’ve been here long enough to know what vanity posts are. It is the OP’s opinion that Obama attacked Jesus based upon what Obama said. The WaPo link merely contains a record of Obama’s words.
Here’s an opinion of mine: Obama allowing the Muslim Brotherhood in the front door of the White House while forcing the prime minister of Israel to use the side door is an attack on Christ.
deeper than darkness it’s true evil in a glib form.
& he says these things very glibly too.... what kind of individual would say these things at a NPB unless they were determined in their concious mind to do so? and he gets off scott frikkin’ free!frankly i’m concerned about what next is going to come out of this fraud’s mouth
It is as though he revels in his personal spiritual darkness; a level of spiritual “death,” as it were. Sad, pathetic, foolish. Blind, willfully ignorant, morally confused, lost, trapped in his web and chains of deceit, anger and hate.
This is the 2015 version of the New Dark Ages, brought to you by a population that, on balance, is so weak, carnal, faithless and blind themselves that they voted this phony, lying creep into the Oval Office TWICE! And to clarify just who he is personally partnered with and is fighting against, he essentially attacks and slanders the Lord himself and those who seek to follow the Lord.
At the same time, he repeatedly overlooks, defends and excuses the evil, extremist, murdering terrorists and their supporters with whom he sympathizes.
Yes, of course he just said that terrible acts or whatever, have been done “in the name of Christ”. So you are entirely correct.
I’ve always said that the liberal dictum is “Tu quoque shall be the whole of the law”. Of course, that refers to the rhetorical device of “You too,” and this was what he was using. It’s a tactic of leveling. Everybody’s the same. They’re cutting heads off? You cut heads off too! Don’t complain.
Since the prime minister of Israel isn't a Christian, in what way is this an attack on Christ?
As far as the thrust of this thread, Obama's statements about the history of Christianity are entirely accurate.
More or less irrelevant from any logical standpoint, since crusade was simply a delayed and generally ineffective attempt to import jihad into Christianity. And of course Muslims were enthusiastic practicioners of slavery from their beginning up to they were forced, by Christian nations, to abandon the practice, at least in theory.
Meanwhile, slavery, as such, was rare in Christian nations for most of a thousand years from 500 to 1500 AD.
But from a purely historical POV, what Obama said was true. Kind of stupid, with Muslims practicing jihad (the Muslim crusade) and slavery, including slave raids, today. But true.
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Christ did establish Israel, remember. He was quite involved with things before as well as after His birth as a human.
No, Obama’s statements are not “entirely accurate” whatsoever. Characterizing defense against jihadists in that manner is a sop thrown to Caliphatists, never mind leftists who have perhaps even more blood on their hands.
Did he ever mention Islamic terrorism in his “speech”? or utter the word Islam along with the violence and death that is being wrought?
Did “Christians” perpetrate the Crusades in the name of Christ? Yup.
Did “Christians” defend slavery in the name of Christ? Well, generally not exactly. What they taught, accurately, was that slavery was integral to the Old Testament and accepted as a fact of life in the New Testament. Christ never said a word approving of slavery, so it would be tough to claim He Himself favored it. Sadly, he also never said anything against the institution.
I did not say what Obama said was appropriate, in fact I said it was irrelevant and pretty stupid. Kind of like the comparisons between Communism and McCarthyism. Tens of millions died, possibly over 100 million, as a result of Communism. Perhaps as many as 10,000 people lost their jobs due to McCarthyism, though that number hasn’t been documented well. AFAIK, exactly two Americans were executed for Communist espionage, of which they were quite guilty.
What Obama said about the Crusades and slavery was, however, historically accurate, more or less. If you wish to dispute that, you’ll have to show where what he said was untrue. Which will be a pretty tough row to hoe.
“Perpetuate” the Crusades? I presume now that a Muslim Europe would have been fine from an historical perspective now? So much for alleged historical accuracy.
No. They aren't. Name one scripture where The King commanded anyone to commit such atrocities! Unlike isLame, you can not!
The Crusade atrocity's were done in the name of the preservation of civilization.
Peaceful slimes are the forward operating base for the barbaric savage murderers that walk amongst them. Human shields for the horrors of satanic hatred against mankind!
The horrors of the HRCC, were committed in the name of the HRCC!
Why would you believe anything Hussein says?
Seriously!?!
That's not what BHO said. He never said Jesus commanded it...he said it was done in the "NAME" of Jesus....using it as an excuse...and for that he is correct (for anyone willing to be honest with history). He is partially correct about slavery. I grew up in the south where many of the older Baptists I knew (who were born in the 1800's) justified prejudice because they believed blacks didn't have a soul...or it was the mark of Cain. He conveniently left out the fact it was Christians who ended slavery....something Muslims have never done.
No...they were not. They were territorial wars which were defending against Muslim aggression...but they used the premise of it being a HOLY war and promised eternal gifts for those willing to fight....not unlike what radical Islam promises. Pope Urban II offered a Crusade Papal Bull that promised indulgences (an unbiblical idea to begin with) and eternal life for anyone willing to fight in the crusades.
yes but i just again looked at DW keynote. hard to believe these two were in the same room at the same event. what a contrast in the two speaches. it’s shame the dw was first. i pray that god crashes down on my presidents heart and he becomes the Christian he professes to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRzVBlerYhk
The Crusades were not, mostly, fought in the defense of Europe.
What we normally think of as “The Crusades” were fought to recapture parts of the Middle East. They were a failed counterattack, not a defense.
There were, of course, “crusades” in Iberia, the Balkans and elsewhere that were in defense of Europe.
BTW, many “crusades” had nothing at all to do with Islam. The Popes launched them against Hussites, pagan Prussians, and even the Holy Roman Emperor and their domestic Italian enemies.
You know, you simply cannot defend the Crusades and at the same time claim they were atrocities.
What is HRCC? Holy Roman Catholic Church?
Obama said people who claimed to be Christian fought the Crusades in the name of Christ. That is entirely accurate. Whether Christ accepted them as fighting for Him is an entirely different question.
Obama also said people who claimed to be Christians also justified slavery as Christian. This is also entirely true.
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