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To: Kevin in California

The Bernie Ward Case is a sad one, rather lurid too, enough for me to decide against posting the details here. It’s online if you want to Google-Excavate on your own. I disagree with most of Wards assumptions and conclusions on whether Dems or the GOP are best for the country, but i have to admit Ward was very good at articulating his Jesuit Based belief system. Maybe he will have learned something profound from spending all those years incarcerated.


13 posted on 01/30/2015 11:02:26 PM PST by lee martell
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To: lee martell

“Ward was very good at articulating his Jesuit Based belief system. “

No he wasn’t. I used to listen to Ward on KGO in the early to mid 90s, including the debates he used to have with Lee Rogers when their shows were in adjacent time slots, and his “God Talk” program. Ward had a few debating tricks he would regularly trot out.

Exemplo gratis: He loved to argue “If you oppose abortion but support capital punishment, you can’t call yourself pro-life”. This is reducing what could be a serious moral discussion to quibbling over definitions.

But for Bernie Ward, it meant he’d won the argument, and permitted himself to approve, if not applaud, his own great intellect and moral superiority.

Ward also engaged in the straw man argumentation, which goes “Well, if you say (reasonable, if debatable) proposition X, then logically you must believe (absurd) proposition Y.” Except the “logic” was only in Bernie’s head. Bernie would then claim that if the person did not adopt the absurd belief, the person was “inconsistent” or hypocritical.

Hypocrisy (other people’s) was a real big thing for Ward. He beat it like a drum. His argument went like this: Some people advocate certain moral beliefs and behavior. Some of those advocates breach the very moral code they advocate. This makes them hypocrites.

What Ward emphasized less, but certainly implied, was that by dismissing the advocate as a hypocrite, we could dismiss the espoused moral principle as a sham. Thus the people who engaged in immoral behavior had a simple, if simple-minded, way to absolve themselves of any guilt, or blame.

I figured this in the early 90s, years before Ward got into trouble. What I didn’t suspect was that Ward’s vigor in pressing this argument might have been to absolve himself of his own shortcomings — what I do is O.K. because they people who say it is wrong are not perfect.

The obsession Ward had with hypocrisy, even then, was echoed in his excuse when he got caught, that his dabbling in child pornography was “research” for a book he was going to write, about hypocrisy. This excuse was soon exposed as a flat-out lie.


16 posted on 01/31/2015 3:00:41 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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