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Apple hit with class action lawsuit over storage consumed by iOS 8
MacDailyNews ^ | Wednesday, December 31, 2014 ยท 8:59 am

Posted on 01/01/2015 1:38:43 AM PST by Swordmaker

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To: kjam22
Both of our iphones are 5c

That's essentially equivalent to an iPhone 5, but I've never used a Windows machine with iTunes for syncing or updating. There might be something different there. Let's see if anyone else had the same experience. I know it works the way I described on a Mac. . . but there are differences on the Windows version of iTunes.

61 posted on 01/01/2015 2:23:17 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

The lawyers are hoping to get the judge that require Lowe’s to give accurate measurements for a 2x4....
http://www.remodeling.hw.net/business/lowes-16m-settlement-lists-2x4-labeling-requirements_o


62 posted on 01/01/2015 2:54:35 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
The lawyers are hoping to get the judge that require Lowe’s to give accurate measurements for a 2x4....

Are they also going to require that each individual 2X4 be labeled with its exact measured dimensions? When? At the date it's cut green and wet? After it's oven dried? When? Is this ignorant DA aware there is a National Standards agency that sets standards for the acceptable sizing for dimensional lumber. . . and everyone who sells lumber must sell according to those standars? Apparently not.

However, this is a civil consumer protection suit brought by an over-zealous Assistant DA in an extremely Liberal California county in front of one of the most Liberal judges you could find, all of whom are STUPID, not a class action suit. Of course, they could find stupid Liberal judges in class action suits, too.

63 posted on 01/01/2015 3:27:35 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: minnesota_bound

Oh, ho! There’s more to this case than a 2X4 across the forehead, Minnesota. . . apparently everyone reporting on it was misrepresenting the case, using hyperbole about the dimensions when that was NOT what the case was about at all. . . which caused we who do work with wood to jump to justified conclusions. This looks like another case a malfeasance in the practice of JOURNALISM rather than a miscarriage of the law!

Check out this link for a more factual rendition of events. . . I’m not sure im in agreement with the court’s conclusion, but it IS more understandable and less stupid.

http://www.remodeling.hw.net/business/regulations/lowes-2x4-case-documents-add-to-allegations-about-undersized-lumber_o


64 posted on 01/01/2015 3:37:34 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Dr. Sivana
If you got a Coleco Adam or a Commodore 64 or an Apple IIe, you'd have maybe half the RAM memory advertised for actual use.

I bought an Apple II with 4k RAM memory. The OS took up half that, and I was programming 6502 assembly language programs to fit within 512 bytes. Not TB, GB, MB or KB - just bytes. 16K RAM was going for over $500. So I don't see what the gripe is over this lawsuit. I was paying for ME.COM storage before they converted to iCloud, and they now give 5GB away for FREE. I was talking to an Apple engineer today, and they're trying to keep up with building facilities everywhere, the growth and need for space is crazy (not just servers, but buildings and contractors etc.).

65 posted on 01/01/2015 4:09:28 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat
The OS took up half that, and I was programming 6502 assembly language programs to fit within 512 bytes. Not TB, GB, MB or KB - just bytes.

And around the same era, the 12 bit Digital PDP8/M had to be bootstrapped from the front panel! After the right sequence of bits were entered, you could go to the teletype and either type in more, or read it in from the paper tape reader.
66 posted on 01/01/2015 5:36:25 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

One of the reasons I bought an Apple II, was that it had a built-in keyboard making it easy to enter programs or boot from tape. Before that, I was looking to buy an IMSAI or Altair machine, but didn’t like hitting the paddle switches to enter code. I did some programming on PDP8 machines via teletype, and still have some paper tape rolls of programs (in early 1970s before personal computer era). Unfortunately, I don’t have a paper tape reader! Kids got it easy now.


67 posted on 01/01/2015 5:46:33 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat
One of the reasons I bought an Apple II, was that it had a built-in keyboard making it easy to enter programs or boot from tape.

You chose well. That model had a much better shelf life than the Imsai or the Altair, or the Ohio Scientifics, Exidy Sorcerers, CompuCOlors or Commodore PETs. The Altair might well be worth a lot more now, though.
68 posted on 01/01/2015 6:04:34 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Swordmaker

How many Android device purchasers are suing Samsung/HTC/Google/Motorola/etc. for the EXACT same situation?

OH - and lest we forget - that shiny new Chromebook you bought your kid for Christmas - with the 20GB Hard Drive - the OS resides on that, which occupies unusable space.

Oh - and have we also forgotten the past lawsuits that were smacked down over Hard Drive capacity measurements (the old 1 MB = 1024Kb vs. 1 MB = 1000Kb lawsuits?

How much space does Windows 8 occupy that a user cannot utilize?

Then again - we live in a world/nation where an idiot can sue Lowe’s because the finished size of a 2X4 is actually 1 ½ X 3 ½ inches.... and WIN!

Name ONE electronic device that uses storage to operate that doesn’t utilize some of the space for files, folders, and system data that is not optional...

But its ok - This lawsuit is against the “EVIL APPLE EMPIRE” - the market share leader for smartphones - (and profit leader by far).

If I need/want to store 16GB of data (music/videos/etc) on my iPhone, I won’t buy a 16GB device... first because it wouldn’t all fit even if there were no OS, second - because any storage-based device works better when there is free space. This has been true for the history of hard drives (both standard and solid state). This is why I opted to spend a little more $ when I bought my iPhone 6 - 128GB model. My previous iPhone 5S was a 64GB model - and it was about half filled. Free space makes all the difference.

The whole advertising angle of a device of X size can hold Y X number of songs/videos/etc is for illustrative purposes of the total physical size. Even that is variable depending on compression format of said files, length of those files...

Sigh...


69 posted on 01/02/2015 7:41:17 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Swordmaker
said William Anderson, a lawyer at Cuneo Gilbert & Laduca, a Washington, D.C.-based law firm

Class action lawsuits are a scam on the supposed victims, as well as the target. If there is a settlement or judgment in favor of the plaintiffs - the lawyers will get the lion's share, likely in the $millions while plaintiffs in the class will get like a $5 iTunes gift card or some such nonsense.

70 posted on 01/02/2015 7:43:29 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Swordmaker
That’s why Apple HAS offered larger optional online storage for those who choose to purchase it. They hardly hold-up customers at gun-point to force them to buy it!

Or simply save your photos and such to your computer...

I never cease to be amazed (SMH) at folks who buy a phone/smartphone, use it as a camera to take volumes of images - the, when they drown, drop, lose, or otherwise destroy the device, cry and moan that they lost thousands of photos...

Of course, those are the same folks who use to take pictures with a digital camera and never transfer those images to a computer or other device - and wonder why they could only take so many photos... ugh.

71 posted on 01/02/2015 7:47:50 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: puppypusher

SuperMac... that would be a reference to a historical item...


72 posted on 01/02/2015 7:49:51 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Should add that if you do not buy an iPhone very soon after release you will not be able to get one later with the maximum memory.

Huh???? How do you figure? I know several people who have purchased both iPhone 6 and 6+ at the 128GB configuration in the last couple of weeks-

73 posted on 01/02/2015 7:51:47 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Caipirabob

nice “not found” image, there....


74 posted on 01/02/2015 7:52:26 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: dennisw

That’s what happens when you make arrangements for a “trist” with a big-name gay CEO - they will always leave you wanting more... or so I have heard...


75 posted on 01/02/2015 7:55:02 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Swordmaker

MAPS is particularly oppressive in those you listed! Why else would folks post outright lies and made-up garbage?

One in particular has such hatred, you would think he had been jilted by Tim Cook at the Justice of the Peace office...


76 posted on 01/02/2015 7:57:00 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: kjam22

Your phone must have been filled to absolute capacity (or awfully close too it). Each subsequent OS update (any OS, not just Apple’s) tend to be measurably bigger - plus some needed shuffle room. Try updating a Windows phone, or Android phone - (or tablet, or computer) with the storage capacity filled to 99%+... good luck. As posted in a previous post - free space works much better - regardless of what you are trying to do.


77 posted on 01/02/2015 8:00:16 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Swordmaker

I always laugh when folks make such wild claims. I suppose Tim Cook sent the Apple Gestapo (Gaystapo?) Jackboots to his house, held a gun to his head while taking his credit card and swiping it to pay for a “mandatory upgrade”...

Never mind, there are a slew of Android-based tablets of varying sizes at far less-expensive prices if he hates Apples “SCAM” so badly...

Also - since he opted to not post any details of said “hardware problem”, we are left wondering if it was actually a hardware issue - or a major software issue that “might” could have been solved with a full-bore reset. Never mind we also don’t know how the device was treated in its 1.5 year life in his hands. Just more of the “Evil Apple” syndrome...


78 posted on 01/02/2015 8:04:16 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: TheBattman

So you would like a tryst with a limp wryst CRApple CEO? You want to Cook for Tim?


79 posted on 01/02/2015 8:38:40 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

The reference was to your own obviously personal jilting at his “hand”....


80 posted on 01/02/2015 9:29:36 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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