Global Warming Is Already Locked In, World Bank Says

NBC News.com ^ | 11/24/2014

[Trillian]

I guess they’ve traveled far enough back in time to where 3 people actually believe it and they can continue getting money for it.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Global warming somehow made the polar air colder, while keeping the temperate zones the same.

[familyop]

I’ve seen that problem with temperatures displayed by quite a number of banks on the Range. Maybe the sensors are improperly housed. That is, maybe they’re soaking up warmth from the housings around them, which housings may get sunlight at times or heat from the buildings that they’re attached to.

It’s hard to tell with thermometers from a local store, too—both liquid and coil types. The liquid thermometers tend to be limited from reading very low temperatures. The coil thermometers degrade and are often inaccurate when new.

Thermistors (temperature sensors) are probably the way to go. Some of the low-cost, tiny weather stations with a few modifications to protect them from extreme temps, 100 mph spraying ice, etc., can do well, if the temperature sensors are properly housed (shielded from sunlight while not warmed by a surrounding case).

I’m in an area without a registered, local weather station, BTW, and have a few other things to do before mounting new weather monitoring equipment here. For accurate weather readings and forecasts around the Range, we would need many more weather stations. Temperatures, for example, are often radically different between my location and a location about three miles to the east (transition between patterns).

[familyop]

Another consideration: higher winter temperatures reported in resort areas might sometimes bring more tourism revenues.

[TigersEye]

The first ten years I lived here the time and temp were always accurate. Location of sensors wouldn’t explain the incorrect time either. Since they obviously aren’t going to fix it I wonder why they don’t save the electricity and just shut it off.

[TigersEye]

But the temps read high in the summer, which is when we have tourists, and cool mountain temps is one of the main reasons people come here. Winter visitors are far and few between.

[familyop]

Agreed. They should shut it off.

It’s also possible that temperature fluctuations between two and six years from now will shut it off for them. I made sure that some recent replacements for solar system components here are good down to -40, F (couldn’t find any that will stand lower than that). We’re also looking at some ways to backup propane heating with non-propane solutions.

Propane yields noticeably less volume and pressure for large appliances in the minus 30s, F, and freezes at -44, F. Propane furnaces and generators, needing much volume, could be problematic, and large propane tanks made for burial are very expensive. One solution is to heat propane tanks with heat tape and insulation, but that’s not as reliably done for houses too far from the grid (expensive heating with PV solar systems).

[Fred Hayek]

Butbutbutbut. ...blizzards in Buffalo and Lake Superior freezing over is all cuz of global warming!

[TigersEye]

If it gets below -40 in CO for long we'll all be screaming climate change.

"Climate, change!" lol

[JT Hatter]

Global Warming Is Already Locked In, World Bank Says

I certainly hope so.

[JT Hatter]

“Locked in” at 1.5°.

Wait! Is that an interest rate?

[Rastus]

Michael Jackson knew about this! In “This Is It,” he said the earth was five or so years away from being irreversibly locked into global warming. I gotta go with my guy here.

[outofsalt]

From the World Bank site:

"Financing climate change is an important part of the World Bank Group's business. Our focus has resulted in significant financing flowing to support low-emissions and resilient development. For example, mitigation support for the world's poorest countries through the Bank's IDA reached $2.3 billion during fiscal year 2013, while the IFC's mitigation financing increased 50 percent to $2.5 billion."
http://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/climatefinance

[familyop]

"If it gets below -40 in CO for long we'll all be screaming climate change.

"Climate, change!" lol"

That's for sure! According to some of the eggheads studying extended solar minimum possibilities, previous minimums brought sudden fluctuations of short duration, both warm and cold but mostly toward cold. We're about one year or thereabouts past the most recent time of maximum.

It wasn't much of a maximum with the dearth of solar activity relative to recent previous maximums. If those eggheads are guessing correctly, we'll see some short and unusual spikes toward cold. My first American ancestor that I could find information about successfully farmed in the northeast during the Little Ice Age (the Maunder Minimum). Most of the media chatter tends to overstate the weather conditions of such periods, but the weather may get interesting at times.

"Climate change," yes, but natural climate change. In my unqualified opinion, it is vanity for men to claim that we can do much at this point in history to appreciably change the weather. We're subject to it, and we can only learn to adapt and live with it. More distributed, less centralized production in agriculture, energy and manufacturing would be a good movement for our security in many ways. There are links to examples of permaculture in action in my comment #53. Many other efforts are also under way.

[TigersEye]

"Climate change," yes, but natural climate change.

There is no other kind. If you were quoting me you left out the all important comma. ;-)

Climate, change!

[familyop]

"There is no other kind. If you were quoting me you left out the all important comma. ;-)

Climate, change!"

Went right over my head. Well done!

[jyro]

So now we should stop trying to prevent it and adapt to it instead, GREAT! The climate has changed on Earth since the beginning of time. Organisms that survive adapt.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

So the World Bank is trading in carbon credits?

DOOMAGE!

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[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Tune in next week she we find out we’ve all be dead for 20 years, and are in purgatory.

That's easy enough to believe. #USCirclingTheBowl

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Locked in?

I’d say, ‘Baked In’ if we are to believe Charlatans and Snake Oil Salesmen! ;)