Posted on 11/23/2014 2:03:48 AM PST by EinNYC
The principal of East Side Community HS invited the New York Civil Liberties Union to give a two-day training session last week on interacting with police. The 450 kids were coached on staying calm during NYPD encounters and given a “What To Do If You’re Stopped By The Police” pamphlet.
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four mouth = foul mouth
Agree 100%.
the outlook of the police towards non police at some point in the last 30 years changed quite dramatically.
Because I am law abiding I had little reason for cop interaction and I continued to believe they were honorable men simply doing a tough, necessary job. But all in one swoop I found out that profoundly wrong and that for some time i had been operating in a pleasant fantasy.
I realize now that I have not changed happened substantially before that realization dawned on me the police categorize citizens as simply those previously arrested and those awaiting arrest. Many of them also appear to harbor fantasies of being a member of seal team 6.
I hate whats going on ferguson but in fact now I think it’s mainly to a struggle between two GANGS, one with tidy clothes featuring belts and another with foolish clothes devoid of belts.
Another reason to home school.
Actually, my parents didn’t really suffer any inconvenience. I went to court by myself, and paid my own fines. Three of us were taken to jail the second time, but the parents of one of the other guys came and got us out.
Wish I could say the experience turned me into an upstanding citizen, but the truth is that I never got caught for all the other stuff.
well things have changed. My kid tried to defend himself and ended up with a firearm violation. He and his buds thought they were in the “country” shooting their guns and got stopped. Their guns were confiscated. If he had come to me, I know the best criminal lawyers in the county and would have paid for one.
He did come to me on other stuff.
Just to be clear, I’m talking about minor in possession of alcohol. No firearms involved in either case.
Were you teaching kids who had prior criminal records? Or gang members out of jail?
Ya know if you would have said “I am Peace Officer” I might entertain your thoughts as being truthful and righteous, but since you self identify as a “Law Enforcement Officer” you are the PROBLEM.
We learned in school about 50 years ago all about “Law Enforcement Officers” in Hitlers Germany, they were officially known as The Gestapo and the SS, got as mirror??
Sig heil
Perfect. The only response necessary to this, and I love that it was almost instantaneous. I was getting worried, I’d recently seen threads where the obvious response was 20 or 30 posts down. Kudos.
my own kids
not criminals but treated like it by overzealous cops
in fact, once the across the street teen parked his car on the street up above and walked down the hill to see my kid. The dic8 neighbor uphill called the police to complain about a strange car on the street. The police charged down the hill and said “hey guys” to my son and the friend. My son pushed the button for the garage door and he and the kid came inside shutting the overzealous on steroids cops out.
I thought to myself that I taught them well. The cops were on my property, I hadn’t called them and the kids were simply standing in the garage doorway talking (which is well designed and opens to the back yard).
Cops had to leave.
yeah well, he had an mip a different time.
“I am peace officer “ is lousy grammar. I have been a “peace” “police” “pig” “LEO” insert what you want here... The job is the same. For you to label me as the problem because I used an acronym that is quicker to type than spelling out “I am peace officer”. Is ridiculous, and speaks volumes about you, sir. I take people rights very seriously. I do my level best to honor those rights. Thank you
Well I don’t spell check, and a few keys on my laptop are a little sticky and do not always register. But with regards to “Labels”, words actually do mean things. The term “Law Enforcement Officer” is a morally offensive term to Liberty. It implies a “Statist” attitude towards the Citizens at the behest of the political entity that employs them. When one considers the “Fact” that “Law Enforcement Officers” have No Legal Duty to protect the Citizenry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia,
and that their only “Legal Duty” is to the Political Entity that employs them, they are by definition STATIST’S.
If you truly wish to learn on your own what a “Peace Officer” would be, I would start with a few history lessons which can be found here:
WARNING- This material was not designed to be comprehensible by the average Public School Graduate
https://archive.org/stream/CitizensRuleBookJuryHandbook/citizen_djvu.txt
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html
If you manage to fully comprehend these simple primers on LIBERTY, I can supply more.
Sig Heil
Youtube has some videos on someone dealing with border agents that want to search their car.
All they say, over and over again, is
“am I being detained or am I free to go?”
No gov’t agent can “detain” you without an arrest.
Your insistence on painting officers who are sworn to uphold the law(sorry if offensive term used there). As statists is offensive. There are bad apples and bad attitudes in all professions. We are given a code book and asked to enforce the law. Usually that means that one must break it before I am asked to enforce it. We also have discretion. More experienced and older officers tend to use this discretion far more frequently than younger less experienced officers. Things are more. Lack and white to them I guess. I will read these articles that you sent, and my four year bachelors degree just might come in handy. Attacking my intelligence is rude
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