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How America was conquered - and by whom!
11/20/2014 | djf

Posted on 11/20/2014 10:32:10 AM PST by djf


We have all heard that America is "One nation, under God..." and tend to believe it.

Benjamin Franklin was asked when he emerged from the Constitutional debates what was the outcome... Franklin, always curt and concise, replied "A Republic - if you can keep it"

Franklin didn't mention anything about democracies or the will of the people or anything else.

The United States Constitution was a blueprint for that republic. It functioned well for almost one hundred years.

Functioned "well for almost one hundred years"? you ask. What the hell has gone on for the last hundred or so years?

It will take a bit, but I will explain. And take heed. All of this is supported by standing Supreme Court decisions and statutory law.

It basically began with the civil war. Whether you believe that war was fought to free the slaves or whatever, it proved to be the collapse of the republic. In 1866, the federal government passed "the civil rights act of 1866". Now this was one of the first times the phrase "citizen of the United States" was used. The civil rights act of 1866 says that it is unlawful to deny or disparage the civil rights of a United States citizen. The rights covered were to sue and be sued, to own property, etc. This strikes some as well and good, as it strikes me.

But there is a problem... while this legislation may be well and good, it is an infringment. It infringes on the Ninth and Tenth amendments. It infringes on the power of the state to determine what is right and wrong.

While many might see some benefit to standardizing definitions, in some circumstances, it makes no sense whatever. For instance instead of talking about the right to be sued, what if it was the speed limit? Does it make sense to have the same speed limit in, say Maryland, than in Nevada? Obviously not.

It is important to note that the federal government DOES NOT NOW AND DID NOT THEN have the power to say who is a state Citizen! It DID NOT have that power before the covil war, and the 14th amendment did not give that power to them. So what did it do?

It composed and rammed through the 14th amendment. The 14th amendment "nationalized" the civil rights act of 1866.

Up until the 14th amendment, there were only two types of (C)itizens - natural born citizens, and naturalized Citizens.
After the 14th amendment, there are three types. Natural born Citizens (Citizens of a state), naturalized Citizens (Citizens of a state who had been naturalized), and citizens of the District of Columbia.

For the first time, the District of Columbia was seen as a political entity with It's OWN CITIZENS who have privileges and immunities, not the rights of a state Citizen.

And this is where the law is today. It can easily be confirmed by checking the Annotated Constitution. What it all means is unknown, but there is no doubt of one thing:
President Obama, if he does some sort of blanket amnesty, IS NOT CREATING CITIZENS IN A CONSTITUTIONAL SENSE!

So now we have "The United States", and what's next?
Incorporation.

It happened. In 1877. The UNITED STATES was incorporated, this includes all of the District of Columbia and the territories. In fact even now, the UNITED STATES sees America as 57 separate governments!

What about that pesky Constitution?

In a series of Supreme Court decisions called the Insular cases, the UNITED STATES was able to basically eviscerate the Constitution. The Supreme Court said pretty much two things:
The term "United States" can mean one of three things: It can mean something in a geographical sense, like a Frenchman might say "I'm going to the United States for vacation!". It can mean the union of 50 sovereign states that formed the republic and are united under the Constitution, or, it can mean the federal United States, which is the District of Columbia and the territories under the "exclusive legislative jurisdiction" of Congress. As far as the District of Columbia and the territories goes, the Constitution need not be followed. In fact those places are in no sense "a republic", they are a democracy, or they are whatever the Congress says they are.

So now you know how Congress passes laws that seem to be "unconstitutional". They ARE unconstitutional! But what about the states??

The 17th amendment.
Interesting thing about the 17th amendment. The Constitution says "no state shall be deprived (of it's representation) without it's consent...
I am interested in finding out if after the 17th amendment was presented as ratified, there were any states who's legislature continued to elect Senators...
but it doesn't really matter, because the Republic is pretty much destroyed.

But there is one more thing... MONEY!
So now you can see why THE UNITED STATES passed the Federal Reserve act.
It is it's own form of "money" and can be used to buy things. Stupid Americans don't realize that it's only supposed to be good in the territories and District of Columbia... but that's another story...

So now we have a plotitical entity called "the United States".
It:
Has it's own citizens
need not follow the Constitution
is a (currently) "legislative democracy"
Has it's own money


Sp now you can see how America was conquered. And by whom. It was conquered by "the UNITED STATES", who have relied on the Supremacy clause, the abolition of slavery, having it's own "money", all of these things pertain to it.

And make no mistake. Everything here is currently law! This is the way it is!

America has been "in name only" since at least the 17th amendment. We are now a "legislative democracy", and have CEASED to be a Republic!


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1 posted on 11/20/2014 10:32:10 AM PST by djf
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To: djf

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/11/19/alabama_rep_mo_brooks_says_obama_s_executive_action_over_immigration_could.html


2 posted on 11/20/2014 10:36:13 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: djf
well... I don't know if I go along with much of the above.

But, I do agree that things went horribly wrong when the south lost the war. America (as it originally existed) ceased to exist at that moment.

3 posted on 11/20/2014 10:40:13 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: djf

We’re in a battle for freedom, but we’re not conquered. Enough of this demoralization.

Freedom lovers have got to decide the greatest issue facing Americans is the need to cut at least 80% of the unconstitutional $4,000,000,000,000 federal government or individual states beginning to nullify unconstitutional federal action and being willing to once again be financially independent of the federal government.

The battle is on. Enough of the demoralizing messages that it is lost without a shot fired.


4 posted on 11/20/2014 10:42:36 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: djf

Calvin Coolidge said that “states’ rights” means the right to do good, and not the right to do wrong.

The slave states insisted on keeping the injustice of slavery. Thus they “could not keep a Republic,” to paraphrase Franklin.

Today, all the states, the District of Columbia, and the territories, have acquiesced in the federal government’s diktat that the killing of babies must be permitted. Not one governor has ever stood up and nullified this criminal diktat.

As the original republic came to an end in the Civil War because it was only a pretense of a republic, so the lingering pretense of a republic is coming to an end in our time. The American people have chosen to tolerate the murders of 58 million babies. They have chosen to tolerate a “president” who is not merely not a “Natural Born Citizen,” but is an illegal alien. There is no republic, and the appearance of a republic is quickly fading.

There may be an actual shooting war between that segment of the American people who want to live in a republic, and those who want the freedom to murder their babies and live in slavery.


5 posted on 11/20/2014 10:47:51 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: PapaNew

I’ve read the court decisions and know it’s true.
If you don’t want to believe it, that’s fine.

The only answer is the states.


6 posted on 11/20/2014 10:48:51 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf
The only answer is the states.

I think that's what I'm saying. We may be agreeing on this.

As long as Americans can live free, whether in many states or in one state that has separated (at least financially ) from the unconstitutional federal government, and the state itself remains true to the Constitution in its own governance, as far as I'm concerned, America is not conquered.

7 posted on 11/20/2014 10:53:44 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: PapaNew

“The battle is on. Enough of the demoralizing messages that it is lost without a shot fired.”

Thank God for YOU!


8 posted on 11/20/2014 10:54:06 AM PST by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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