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For-Profit Colleges Sue The Federal Government
npr ^ | 11-7-2014 | Anya Kamenetz

Posted on 11/07/2014 8:07:22 AM PST by Citizen Zed

A trade group representing more than 1,400 for-profit colleges has filed a lawsuit against the federal government over regulations aimed at curbing industry abuses.

The group seeks to stop a federal regulation, known as the "gainful employment rule," that was formally put into place last week by the U.S. Department of Education. The rule restricts access to federal student-aid dollars for institutions deemed to have too many students who struggle to pay back their student loans.

The rule is aimed at cracking down on institutions that charge excessive tuition, especially for programs that have little value on the job market. The Department of Education says the regulation could potentially affect up to 840,000 students, and, the trade group says, 3.5 million in the next 10 years. Two million students are currently enrolled in for-profits.

The for-profit colleges depend heavily on federal aid money, and the lawsuit filed Thursday is the latest salvo in a battle that has now stretched over five years and at least one other lawsuit.

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1 posted on 11/07/2014 8:07:22 AM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Are not-for-profit institutions, which also rely heavily on federal student loans, similarly subject to the “gainful employment rule?”


2 posted on 11/07/2014 8:12:08 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Arm_Bears
Yep.

The rule is aimed at cracking down on institutions that charge excessive tuition, especially for programs that have little value on the job market.

Like, say, public universities that offer majors in grievance studies?

3 posted on 11/07/2014 8:23:03 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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Who is kidding who; All colleges are "for profit", some are just more honest about it.

The highest paid public university presidents

These guys make almost as much money as a back up guard in the NBA.

4 posted on 11/07/2014 8:25:39 AM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village.)
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To: Citizen Zed

They will lose this suit.


5 posted on 11/07/2014 8:26:10 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Arm_Bears

No, just for profit schools are subject to the law when many “non profit” schools are just as bad or worse.


6 posted on 11/07/2014 8:40:38 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Citizen Zed

If the government applied the employment wage to school loan amount to state and private law schools they would find the same issue. My son has six figure school loans for his law school, but was fortunate to get hired at a salary that allows him to pay his loans. Many of his classmates were not so fortunate and are working in 50k jobs with the same six figure loans.


7 posted on 11/07/2014 8:43:01 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Citizen Zed

I know someone who runs a beauty/barber/massage school, and I was shocked to learn that annual tuition is more than a year at a public university.


8 posted on 11/07/2014 8:43:16 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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“that charge excessive tuition, especially for programs that have little value on the job market. “

Women’s studies anyone?


9 posted on 11/07/2014 8:48:45 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I’ve long maintained that the Student Loan interest rate should be tied to a student’s major and GPA.

Low grades ? Unemployable area of studies ? 20% interest.

4.0 GPA ? Engineering ? 2% interest. . .

But that, of course, would be decried as “unfair”. . .


10 posted on 11/07/2014 8:51:39 AM PST by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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I taught a couple sessions at a “technology” school. I was teaching commercial HVAC controls. It was a joke, their “lab” was a joke. Their other courses were aircraft avionics and wind power generators. How many jobs are there in those fields?

The school seemed to be a student loan and VA loan mill that pretended to teach career skills. I had to quit, couldn't in good conscience be part of that. Some of my students were Iraq combat vets who I thought were wasting their benefits there.

11 posted on 11/07/2014 9:18:24 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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>> deemed to have too many students who struggle to pay back their student loans.<<

When you’re a for-profit school that advertises heavily during daytime TV, in between Jerry Springer and Disability Insurance commercials, you get exactly what you subsidize.

Bubba Ray won’t be pulling down $60k a year with a certificate in ‘Criminal Justice’ or ‘Sports Management’.


12 posted on 11/07/2014 9:31:00 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: Arm_Bears

They are going to court to argue they are entitled to handouts from the taxpayer?

Who do they think they are? Al Sharpton?


13 posted on 11/07/2014 11:10:49 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Yo-Yo
I know someone who runs a beauty/barber/massage school, and I was shocked to learn that annual tuition is more than a year at a public university.

The tuition at the public university is subsidized heavily by the state. For instance land, buildings and specialized spaces are rent-free to the public university, and they pay no property taxes. The beauty/barber/massage school has to pay all these things, and fill out massive amounts of paperwork. Plus, many states subsidize the university operating expenses.

14 posted on 11/07/2014 12:04:27 PM PST by CurlyDave
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