[muir_redwoods]

Well, it is demonstrable that for roughly 90%-95% of the 150,000 years recognizably human entities have been on the earth, we made our living as hunter/gatherers during which time little or nothing diud change. We are only 10,000 years or so as members of civilization.

I say demonstrable but no one is obligated to accept the demonstration,I suppose.

[Alex Murphy]

Well, it is demonstrable that for roughly 90%-95% of the 150,000 years recognizably human entities have been on the earth, we made our living as hunter/gatherers during which time little or nothing did change. We are only 10,000 years or so as members of civilization.

I say demonstrable but no one is obligated to accept the demonstration,I suppose.

I might accept it, if it was a peaceful demonstration.