13 There was no welfare state during that great immigration. At that time, Americas wealthy, nouveau and blueblood, were Republicans and Jew-haters, something not easily forgotten. Catholic haters too, BTW.
15 The FACT is, Israeli Jews are OVERWHELMINGLY opposed to Obama - and many of them vote in U.S. elections. I wonder if you blamed English-Americans for Clinton.
16 After making a poorly thought out post about Jews, I was informed by one Observant Jewish Freeper that what I called liberal Jews were really Secular liberals of Jewish descent. In other words, they were ethnically Jewish, but not observant of the faith. ...
17 ... What most liberal Jews never forget is the idea that for many years, Jews were excluded from many aspects of American society. ... Jews remember that they were frequently barred from entry to country clubs even into the 60s even after they had attained the requisite wealth. ... Many liberal Jews remember (and I put that word in quotes because they are not remembering from their own experience, they are remembering stuff that was told them as children) the union movements of the 30s which (per the lore) sought to improve labor conditions and wages, particularly in the case of garment workers in NYC, of which many were freshly-emigrated Jews. ...
Below is a piece written by Winston Churchill, "Zionism versus Bolshevism", Illustrated Sunday Herald, FEB 1920.
First there are the Jews who, dwelling in every country throughout the world, identify themselves with that country, enter into its national life and, while adhering faithfully to their own religion, regard themselves as citizens in the fullest sense of the State which has received them. Such a Jew living in England would say, 'I am an English man practising the Jewish faith.' This is a worthy conception, and useful in the highest degree. We in Great Britain well know that during the great struggle the influence of what may be called the 'National Jews' in many lands was cast preponderatingly on the side of the Allies; and in our own Army Jewish soldiers have played a most distinguished part, some rising to the command of armies, others winning the Victoria Cross for valour.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd) or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.
I have yet to read an opinion from ethnic Jew/agnostic-atheistic/former communist David Horowitz about the apparent connection between communism and Jews.
A few years back on FR, a Jewish Freeper from NYC posted to me that a new generation of ethnic Jews is growing in the NYC area who are politically conservative.
Wow, that’s a keeper and an eye opener. Thanks for posting.
I’ll send this thread to my Jewish-sans-FR friend tomorrow. Will circle back and post his thoughts if he weighs in strongly.
Thanks all for input ... and more if more is coming.