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Could YOU be immune to Ebola? Scientists claim some are naturally protected from the virus
Daily Mail ^ | 10/16/2014 | Lizzie Parry

Posted on 10/16/2014 2:41:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Revel
[Look, I have debunked the claim. Please DO NOT repeat the falsehood.]

PLEASE read through, and inform more FReepres or your acquaintances

By "CDC studies", the UK source only referenced the 2001/2002 studies. If you include the 2005 CDC research Jake Tapper used for his tweet citing, I have shown in the following copy/paste comment I posted elsewhere that CDC did not PROVE that dogs are Ebola viral vectors, in fact this paper clearly showed dogs are not Ebola virus carriers.

Unless there are further follow up stud(ies) after this 2005 paper, the case for dogs as Ebola viral vector is not as clear cut.

The authors concluded that (1) dogs were infected with Ebola virus in the affected area where there was Ebola outbreak, developed the viral specific antigen (IgG), which is measured in this study.

However, (2) dogs do not develop Ebola symptoms (i.e., asymptomatic), none of the dogs tested showed presence of viral DNA (via PCR testing), and more importantly, nor viral particles can be isolated in the test serum.

In order to be a viral vector, you need to have viral particles accumulated to a certain amount in order to infect other animal/species.

This is the part that’s a huge “Assumption” in this paper -

(excerpt)“Although dogs can be asymptomatically infected, they may excrete infectious viral particles in urine, feces, and saliva for a short period before virus clearance, as observed experimentally in other animals.” (end excerpt)

Thus CDC and these authors need to do the follow-up study to confirm this. This is where online community can help out in digging out more Ebola studies.

I haven't read through the parts about rhesus monkeys, so will refrain from commenting with regards to airborne or not.

41 posted on ‎10‎/‎14‎/‎2014‎ ‎12‎:‎32‎:‎17‎ ‎PM by Sir Napsalot


21 posted on 10/16/2014 3:58:55 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: thackney

Quite a difference in two years. That line for Ebola would be four times the width of that graph today.


22 posted on 10/16/2014 4:58:15 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: jiggyboy

oops, didn’t see it was already in thousands.


23 posted on 10/16/2014 4:58:43 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: jiggyboy

oops, didn’t see it was already in thousands.


24 posted on 10/16/2014 4:59:10 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: MeganC

There were people who were immune to The Spanish Flu.

Why not this?

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25 posted on 10/16/2014 5:03:17 PM PDT by Mears
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To: jiggyboy

That is this year value compared to 2012 of the others above. Numbers are in the thousands.


26 posted on 10/16/2014 5:31:05 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Thanks for posting...Puts it all into better perspective...

And lets not forget the all-time, No. 1 by far killer of humans since it was invented...

The State...Government...


27 posted on 10/16/2014 6:26:35 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

They are either killing or isolating Dogs. So I would say that they believe Dogs can spread the infection.


28 posted on 10/16/2014 7:44:52 PM PDT by Revel
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To: null and void; GeronL; Slings and Arrows

Maybe the cure can be found in Keith Richards’ blood.


29 posted on 10/16/2014 8:49:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Are we sure that is his blood? I heard he stole it from an immortal vampire?


30 posted on 10/16/2014 9:03:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: djf
Keeping the math correct it would need to be Ebola Gay

:^)
31 posted on 10/16/2014 9:23:39 PM PDT by eyedigress (e(!zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Revel

Who are ‘they’?


32 posted on 10/17/2014 4:11:59 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: SeekAndFind; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

33 posted on 10/17/2014 6:43:55 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: Mears

I won’t be gambling the lives of my family on some guess that maybe some of us might be immune to Ebola.


34 posted on 10/17/2014 9:32:35 AM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well there’s always somebody out there with the right genetic combination to be immune from Item X. But I wouldn’t go licking ebola patients to find out if you’re one of the lucky 25.


35 posted on 10/17/2014 9:39:19 AM PDT by discostu (YAHTZEE!)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

36 posted on 10/17/2014 2:25:00 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you. I thought this might be so.


37 posted on 10/17/2014 2:30:26 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: SeekAndFind
The current outbreak has killed 4,493 people, infecting 8,997, the WHO said

I call BS on the numbers.

That's just the *confirmed* cases, the numbers given to help prevent panic over the actual numbers.

Considering the quality of healthcare in Africa and the numbers of people being turned away from hospitals, or just never taken there in the first place, I think the numbers are FAR higher.

38 posted on 10/17/2014 2:32:06 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s been scientifically documented for a long time that a large number of Africans have anti-Ebola antibodies in their blood, indicative of non-symptomatic exposure.


39 posted on 10/17/2014 4:48:17 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: The Great RJ

If a genetic marker that confers natural immunity to Ebola is identified, you don’t need to be exposed to Ebola to see if you have the marker. A simple genetic test can show if the marker is present.


40 posted on 10/17/2014 4:50:17 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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