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Vanity: CDC Website Says Impossible to Be Certain Newark Case Not Ebola in Less than Three Days
Center for Disease Control ^

Posted on 10/06/2014 12:41:41 AM PDT by GeneralSmedleyButler

“Ebola virus is detected in blood only after the onset of symptoms, usually fever. It may take up to 3 days after symptoms appear for the virus to reach detectable levels. Virus is generally detectable by real-time RT-PCR from 3-10 days after symptoms appear.”

“Specimens ideally should be taken when a symptomatic patient reports to a healthcare facility and is suspected of having an Ebola exposure. However, if the onset of symptoms is (less than) 3 days, a later specimen may be needed to completely rule-out Ebola virus, if the first specimen tests negative.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cdc.gov ...


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So according to the CDC itself we have no way of knowing for certain if this latest Liberian man on the plane in Newark has ebola if this were his first display of symptoms. We need to wait until after he has been exhibiting symptoms for three days and then re-test him.
1 posted on 10/06/2014 12:41:42 AM PDT by GeneralSmedleyButler
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To: GeneralSmedleyButler

So let me get this straight. Assuming this is good info...

You get symptoms of a bad cold or flu. You know, fever, nausea etc...

It’s going to be 3 days before tests will tell you if it’s Ebola or not...

So in the middle of flu season, during an Ebola outbreak, how do you determine which people need immediate hydration therapy, isolation and maximum care for Ebola and which ones need two aspirin and 48 hours of bed rest?

Essentially, by the time the tests show you have it, it’s already passing the best window for you to get the care you need to survive it.

Catch 22. You lose every time.


2 posted on 10/06/2014 12:55:07 AM PDT by Advil000
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To: GeneralSmedleyButler; onona

He had an ‘easily treatable’ illness and was sent home to ‘self-monitor’.

On the plane he nudged his aislemate and said his eyes were floating and in fiery pain, then threw up after/while they were moving him to the back of the craft.

Mrs. Onona was eight aisles up from him, Thank God.


3 posted on 10/06/2014 12:55:15 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: GeneralSmedleyButler

Ebola testing is known for its “false negatives.”


4 posted on 10/06/2014 12:58:29 AM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: GeneralSmedleyButler

The permutations of the mutations of the mutant Marxists could kill lots of individuals. The Center for Disease Relocation is on top of it though. Obolacare costs will necessarily skyrocket. Pay up peons.

/sarc


5 posted on 10/06/2014 1:02:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: BunnySlippers

Interesting info posted on this thread.


6 posted on 10/06/2014 1:03:18 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Veto!

The airliner’s crew were telling the passengers ‘these directions are coming from the WH.’

Apparently, if you pass the fever test by taking Ibuprofen, and the 1-hour ebola test, you have to be released.

If this guy comes up positive, likely his daughter will, too, maybe even his seatmate, remember that guy who infected a number of his staff (forgot his name).


7 posted on 10/06/2014 1:07:59 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: GeneralSmedleyButler
Exactly! LOL!

When they said,

“It may take up to 3 days after symptoms appear for the virus to reach detectable levels. Virus is generally detectable by real-time RT-PCR from 3-10 days after symptoms appear.”

You know the “3 day period” is actually the “natural” version of the life course of Ebola, as we always understood it, in the past.

However, THIS VERSION of Ebola can be undetectable for up to 21 days.... Moreover, THIS VERSION, which the world has ever seen before popped up in 3 different cities in Western Africa AT THE SAME TIME................... THAT has NEVER happened before in the past. Thus, why some say this is a “weapons grade/manufactured in a lab” version.

Finally, I find it odd and interesting how the CDC clearly... is projecting a false confidence to the public that everything is normal and okay when it's not.

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THEY BE SO HELL BENT TO MAKE SURE THIS PANDEMIC HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO INFECT OUR CITIZENS? HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO DIE BEFORE THEY STOP THE FLIGHTS AND SECURE THE BORDER???

The kill ratio on it is higher too. I have read the number is anywhere between 70% to 85% of the public. Can you imagine %70 to 85% of the population of the U.S. gone??? That would be what I would expect in a nuclear attack.

Finally, the survivors will not be able to avoid the massive economic impact this would have on the not only the U.S. but the world.

We still have time to stop this, but we have to push, push, push over the next 30 days before this thing spirals out of control.

8 posted on 10/06/2014 1:11:36 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: greeneyes

Indeed! I’m interested.


9 posted on 10/06/2014 1:23:55 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Ping. I didn’t see your name in the posts, and thought you might be interested.


10 posted on 10/06/2014 1:37:00 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Yes, I am interested, greeneyes! Thanks!

Ping…

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

11 posted on 10/06/2014 1:47:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Enlightened1

By contrast, the Spanish Flu (1918) had a mortality rate of 2.5%


12 posted on 10/06/2014 1:54:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

How comforting to know...(sarcasm off)

We are in big trouble if we do not nip this in the bud soon.


13 posted on 10/06/2014 2:07:32 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Advil000

Well not everytime. I mean ebola only kills 50 to 90%.


14 posted on 10/06/2014 2:10:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Enlightened1

Yes, we are. Maybe we should bombard the do-nothings in Congress and get them to push it. If they can’t get things squared away and there is a disaster, at the very least they will be able to say they tried.


15 posted on 10/06/2014 2:14:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: GeneralSmedleyButler

Unusual candor from the propaganda brigade, do I sense a crack in the Obama wall?


16 posted on 10/06/2014 2:20:27 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Advil000
So in the middle of flu season, during an Ebola outbreak, how do you determine which people need immediate hydration therapy, isolation and maximum care for Ebola and which ones need two aspirin and 48 hours of bed rest?

Even if you "just" have the flu, you may need the same high level of care that an Ebola patient would need. Influenza kills around 16,000 Americans every year--it is *not* a trivial disease. If you get a lethal infection with influenza, it actually kills faster than Ebola.

17 posted on 10/06/2014 2:56:59 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Enlightened1

“Can you imagine %70 to 85% of the population of the U.S. gone???”

I’m not defending the US government (please folks, let’s start calling these schmucks and demanding they stop flights from the affected African countries - Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea) but that number is just way off.

You’re assuming that the ENTIRE US population would get ebola. That hasn’t even happened in Liberia.


18 posted on 10/06/2014 3:21:50 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: GeneralSmedleyButler
Question... how many countries has ebola shown up in so far.. because i believe the US is the only one outside of Africa. ..what this tell you about the idiot we have in charge these day's
19 posted on 10/06/2014 3:38:49 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: jocon307

You’re assuming that the ENTIRE US population would get ebola. That hasn’t even happened in Liberia....I doubt Liberians have the mobility we do. I doubt Liberians have HVAC like we do. I doubt Liberians have food processing plants the size of ours.


20 posted on 10/06/2014 3:45:48 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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