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Self-defense against overflying drones
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | October 3, 2014 | A. Michael Froomkin and Zak Colangelo (guest-blogging)

Posted on 10/04/2014 3:45:11 PM PDT by right-wing agnostic

Scarcely a week goes by without a story in the news about drones, whether it is a Senator finding a drone peering in her window, or a small town in Colorado discussing whether to offer drone-hunting licenses (in the end they voted not to). The fear that a drone may be watching you is far from unreasonable. Today’s news, for example, is that up to 20 percent of the Border Patrol predator-drone flight hours take place in the US; meanwhile, in Miami where we both live, the police department has a fleet of drones out on patrol.

This week’s arrest of a man who took a shotgun to an airborne drone is only one of the most recent warnings that we need better legal rules — and better social norms — about drone overflights, and that we need them now both to prevent harm to people and to prevent wrongful shootdowns. Similar, if less dramatic, questions apply to dangers posed by other robots, such as driverless cars. As it happens, we have some suggestions for rules that would apply to all robots, whether autonomous or remote controlled, that pose any potential threat to life or limb, to property, or to privacy.

Our recent paper Self-Defense Against Robots, which we presented at the WeRobot 2014 Conference held at the University of Miami School of Law focuses more on civil remedies such as tort law than on criminal law issues. (The New Jersey case made the news because the shooter was charged with criminal mischief and possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose.)

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; drones; selfdefense

1 posted on 10/04/2014 3:45:11 PM PDT by right-wing agnostic
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To: right-wing agnostic

A Wearable Camera That Would Turn Into a Drone and Fly Off Your Wrist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3208222/posts


2 posted on 10/04/2014 4:04:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Drones, auto pilot airplanes, self driving care:

What difference does it make by now?

Even our White House is on autopilot.


3 posted on 10/04/2014 4:14:01 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Video at link:

Meet Johnny Dronehunter, Shotgun-Toting Defender of American Privacy
By A.J. McCarthy

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/07/30/johnny_dronehunter_shotgun_toting_vigilante_shoots_down_drones_in_absurd.html


4 posted on 10/04/2014 4:23:23 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: right-wing agnostic

Importantly, what wasn’t said is that there is now a growing anti-drone technology, that while illegal, may be highly profitable. The means to take down drones are limited only by imagination. And as long as they cannot be directly connected to the target of the drone, that target cannot be punished for it.

For example, two weather balloons could be tethered together by fishing line, from which descends many strands of fishing line. Fishing line and propellers do not get along. Simplicity itself.


5 posted on 10/04/2014 5:28:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Laser guided kamakazi attack drone!


6 posted on 10/04/2014 6:16:01 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A Wearable Camera That Would Turn Into a Drone and Fly Off Your Wrist

Proven effective prior to launch, too.

7 posted on 10/04/2014 7:13:58 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Fighter Kites

8 posted on 10/04/2014 7:27:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: 1FreeAmerican

That is one possibility. The US military is already using the Switchblade drone against enemy ground targets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dgvBb5ke-E

A small kamikaze drone would likely be infrared guided by the hot exhaust of a larger drone and fly into its engine.

If the drone is flying higher up, the attack drone could be sent up on a balloon, or even as part of a model rocket.

A small drone could have a microwave transmitter to try and fry the other drone’s electronics. But explosives are the most cost effective. So rig the attack drone with some short tubes with electrically fired shotgun shells in them.


9 posted on 10/04/2014 7:35:05 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Just a question,
Why is it legal for cops to use drones tocheck us out but not for us to use them to check on cops?


10 posted on 10/05/2014 4:01:12 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Obammy lied and lied and lied.)
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To: Joe Boucher

“Why is it legal for cops to use drones tocheck us out but not for us to use them to check on cops?”

Why not? You can operate an aircraft in almost any airspace in the United States and use that aircraft for surveillance.

There are some areas of restricted airspace, such as Area 51, the White House, etc.


11 posted on 10/05/2014 6:38:36 AM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU


12 posted on 10/05/2014 9:45:42 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: CFIIIMEIATP737

I understand what you say, but.
I guarantee you if you fly one keeping tabs on cops they’ll shut you down then there is the ban on national parks etc


13 posted on 10/05/2014 2:00:34 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Obammy lied and lied and lied.)
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