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Raise the Voting Age
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Posted on 09/06/2014 10:28:46 PM PDT by chessplayer

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To: chessplayer

Harry Truman was asked about lowering the voting age to 18 his reply was, it would make more sense to raise it to 25.

Harry was right then, but now it should be 35.


21 posted on 09/07/2014 12:24:31 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Ninety years is too long a span because women used to be very republican.

The election that killed America was the election of JFK, women voted against him, and men voted for him.

“”In 1964 as in 1960 the gender gap of 2 to 3 % was too small to be significant, but it was notable because, for the first time, women were more likely than men to vote for the Democratic Presidential candidate. In 1968 43 % of both men and women said they voted for Nixon. But men were 4 % more likely to vote for George Wallace (16% to 12%) while women were more likely to vote for Humphrey (45% to 41%).””

If you want to see a bad voting group that is large, look at the Catholic vote, depending on the polling, it has only gone republican 4 to 5 times in history, (some say as few as three).


22 posted on 09/07/2014 12:35:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

I am against allowing Catholics to vote, too.

Especially since the Catholic bishops are deliberately agitating for the importation of more and more pro-abortion Catholic voters.


23 posted on 09/07/2014 12:42:17 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ansel12

As the population of never-married mothers grows, women become more Democrat. Which was the Democrats’ plan when they set about destroying the family.

Always with the unwavering support of the bishops’ conference, btw.

The U.S. bishops’ conference opposed the Reagan tax rate cuts of 1981 and 1986 because a drop in the rates would reduce the value of the charitable deduction! Like all Democrats, the bishops view the people as one mammoth cash cow.


24 posted on 09/07/2014 12:48:29 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: chessplayer

I always liked Heilein’s view on voting from his book “Starship Troopers”.


25 posted on 09/07/2014 12:52:51 AM PDT by mikefive (RLTW)
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To: chessplayer
By and large, 18-year-olds know nothing and shouldn’t be voting.

If you don’t believe me, I suggest you actually go to a college campus and talk to some students.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPcthZL2RE

26 posted on 09/07/2014 1:00:55 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Objective Scrutator
although I don’t think anyone who doesn’t pay income/property tax should be allowed to vote

You are on the right track.

It's a conflict of interest for welfare recipients to be voting. Elementary political corruption law!

27 posted on 09/07/2014 1:06:42 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Tzimisce

Change the day of voting to Saturday. Most are not at work. Higher turn out.


28 posted on 09/07/2014 1:11:09 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Arthur McGowan

For historical accuracy though, remember that women used to be more republican than men, and that as in so many things, the republicans were the party of women’s rights, but eventually the democrats turned it into left wing feminism.

“What’s notable about this history is not merely that there was a gender gap prior to 1980, but that the pattern shifted. Previously the Republican Party had been the beneficiary of woman suffrage; subsequently the Democratic Party was. Furthermore, this change correlates with different attitudes by the national parties toward women and women’s rights. While partisan differences were not large prior to 1980, they were present. Historically, it was the Republican Party that was the party of women’s rights, and the Democratic Party that was the home of anti-feminism. After the new feminist movement rose in the 1960s-70s, the parties switched sides.”


29 posted on 09/07/2014 1:17:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: chessplayer

It’s not the age. It’s basically the IQ.


30 posted on 09/07/2014 1:27:09 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Tzimisce
You’d have to amend the US Constitution.
Of course, the voting age will never be raised. That would require a constitutional amendment, which would require two-thirds of both houses and three-fourths of the states. And that would likely require 18-, 19-, and 20-year-olds voting against their right to vote.
Not logical. Any 18-yo who voted to raise the voting age to 21 would in fact be 21 by the time the amendment went into effect, and would spend the rest of his/her life not having his/her vote diluted by the votes of snot-nosed kids too young to have much chance of knowing and respecting political issues.
In that sense it would seem to be a no-brainer for all current voters.
I could agree with an exception for anyone who qualifies for combat pay, of course - but in reality it is their mother and fathers, not teenagers, who would be most solicitous about 18 yo military personnel. Maybe they should get to vote twice.

31 posted on 09/07/2014 1:40:13 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Objective Scrutator
(although I don’t think anyone who doesn’t pay income/property tax should be allowed to vote).

Totally agree. If you're on the public dole, no way you should be able to vote.

32 posted on 09/07/2014 1:49:08 AM PDT by onona (Why do I read those headlines ?)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Objective Scrutator

I’d vote for YOU for PRESIDENT!!!


33 posted on 09/07/2014 1:59:33 AM PDT by conservativesister
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Of course, the voting age will never be raised. That would require a constitutional amendment, which would require two-thirds of both houses and three-fourths of the states. And that would likely require 18-, 19-, and 20-year-olds voting against their right to vote.
Any 18-yo who voted to raise the voting age to 21 would in fact be 21 by the time the amendment went into effect, and would spend the rest of his/her life not having his/her vote diluted by the votes of snot-nosed kids too young to have much chance of knowing and respecting political issues.

In that sense it would seem to be a no-brainer for all current voters. In reality, of course, young people tend to get more conservative with time and experience - so “liberals” (of whatever age) would tend to think that youngsters should vote.

The military service issue was always just a rationalization to cover for that political calculation - as witness that nobody thought at the time the amendment was passed that women would be drafted - or that 18 yo men should vote but 18 yo women should not.
The natural disposition is always to believe. It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. - Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments

34 posted on 09/07/2014 2:06:02 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Objective Scrutator; Arthur McGowan; cynwoody

<>Keeping freeloaders from voting was an intention of the Founders.<>

Not exactly. By the time of the constitution, northern states were moving toward universal adult male suffrage.

But . . . the Framers also knew the danger of democracy. They balanced popular whims with a senate of the states. Give the people extensive representation, but heaven forbid giving them the entire show.

If we are to restore republican freedoms, an Article V convention to propose structural changes to the government is our only hope. The 17th Amendment must go.


35 posted on 09/07/2014 2:07:30 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: onona

<> If you’re on the public dole, no way you should be able to vote.<>

Various amendments to the constitution notwithstanding, the Framers left congressional voter qualifications to the states. Article I Section 2: “ . . . and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.”

So yes, the states could keep those on the dole out of the polling place.


36 posted on 09/07/2014 2:11:49 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Skepolitic

Yeah, but unfortunately that doesn’t stop anyone from doing either...or both.


37 posted on 09/07/2014 2:44:59 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (Tagline? I don't need no stinking tagline!)
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To: chessplayer

What was the voting age during WWII?


38 posted on 09/07/2014 4:11:49 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: chessplayer

How about a good old fashioned citizenship test. Ask Questions about the bill of rights and history. that should weed out about 95% of urban voters.


39 posted on 09/07/2014 4:23:49 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Politicalkiddo

> As a millennial, I say raise it to 30.

You really don’t start paying attention to politics or it’s effects on you until you start paying taxes or uf fer hardships caused by bad politics. I am speaking from my own personal experience. I didn’t have a clue about what life was really about until 25. The old saying, liberal by 20, conservative by 40 is so true but you won’t really understand why until you’re 40...: )


40 posted on 09/07/2014 4:42:35 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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