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A Shock & A Loss; My Childhood, Neighborhood Church has had it's Name Changed.
Sept. 3 2014 | lee martell

Posted on 09/03/2014 10:02:47 PM PDT by lee martell

From 1962 to about 1972, I attended St. Cecilia Catholic Grade School from first to ninth grade in Detroit Michigan. We had approximately 300 students. Most of our teachers were priests and nuns. I later went to a public high school to finish the upper grades. I rarely visit that part of the country anymore, mainly due to travel expense and getting time off from work. I remain very close to my first family. I spoke to my oldest sister the other day who told me "There is no 'Saint Cecilia Catholic Church' anymore, at least not in this location. A few years back, this church, with a dwindling parish decided to send most of it's clergy to another parish a few miles away. This is now called St. Charles Catholic Church, but Daddy refuses to call it anything but Saint Cecilia. Many former parishioners now go to St. Theresa two miles away. " Our Dad doesn't like the size of the pews at Saint Theresa, as he sometimes uses a walker and needs a bit more 'wing room' as he puts it. I was quite surprised to hear of the name change, but I should not have been. That part of Detroit has fewer people living there and looks like a tornado hit it. Contrary to popular belief, not all parts of Detroit are run down, but this part is, and urgently needs a makeover or perhaps a pave over. I suppose I am grateful that this is still a Catholic, or even a Christian church at all.


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1 posted on 09/03/2014 10:02:47 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell
St. Charles Lwanga, pray for us.

For what it's worth, I found this article online having to do with the parish: http://grantland.com/features/st-cecilia-basketball-detroit-jalen-rose-george-gervin-chris-webber/.

2 posted on 09/03/2014 10:08:25 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: lee martell

You don’t need a comma between childhood and neighborhood.


3 posted on 09/03/2014 10:14:39 PM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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To: aposiopetic

Thank you very much for pulling that up. I forget info like that is indeed out there, ripe for the reading. I almost didn’t want to face it, hoping she,, my sister was ‘just makin stuff up’.


4 posted on 09/03/2014 10:16:48 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

Never heard of any St. Charles.

Cecilia, however is well known.


5 posted on 09/03/2014 10:17:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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Saint Cecilia (Latin: Sancta Caecilia) is the patroness of musicians. It is written that as the musicians played at her wedding she “sang in her heart to the Lord”. Her feast day is celebrated in the Roman Catholic, Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, and Eastern Catholic Churches on November 22. She is one of seven women, excluding the Blessed Virgin, commemorated by name in the Canon of the Mass.

There was in the city of Rome a virgin named Cecilia, who was given in marriage to a youth named Valerian. She wore sackcloth next to her skin, and fasted, and invoked the saints and angels and virgins, beseeching them to guard her virginity. And she said to her husband, “I will tell you a secret if you will swear not to reveal it to anyone.” And when he swore, she added, “There is an angel who watches me, and wards off from me any who would touch me.” He said, “Dearest, if this be true, show me the angel.” “That can only be if you will believe in one God, and be baptized.”

She sent him to Pope S. Urban (223-230), who baptized him; and when he returned, he saw Cecilia praying in her chamber, and an angel by her with flaming wings, holding two crowns of roses and lilies, which he placed on their heads, and then vanished. Shortly after, Tibertius, the brother of Valerian, entered, and wondered at the fragrance and beauty of the flowers at that season of the year.

When he heard the story of how they had obtained these crowns, he also consented to be baptized. After their baptism the two brothers devoted themselves to burying the martyrs slain daily by the prefect of the city, Turcius Almachius. [There was no prefect of that name.] They were arrested and brought before the prefect, and when they refused to sacrifice to the gods were executed with the sword.

In the meantime, S. Cecilia, by preaching had converted four hundred persons, whom Pope Urban forthwith baptized. Then Cecilia was arrested, and condemned to be suffocated in the baths. She was shut in for a night and a day, and the fires were heaped up, and made to glow and roar their utmost, but Cecilia did not even break out into perspiration through the heat. When Almachius heard this he sent an executioner to cut off her head in the bath. The man struck thrice without being able to sever the head from the trunk. He left her bleeding, and she lived three days. Crowds came to her, and collected her blood with napkins and sponges, whilst she preached to them or prayed. At the end of that period she died, and was buried by Pope Urban and his deacons.

Sources: Wikipedia and http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=34


6 posted on 09/03/2014 10:21:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: webheart

You are correct about that. Sometimes I punctuate in the same manner in which I speak, pausing for a breath after a short flurry of words. A slash or hyphen would be better, no?


7 posted on 09/03/2014 10:21:18 PM PDT by lee martell
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Saint Charles Lwanga A martyr for Our Lord.

Life[edit]

Charles was born in the Kingdom of Buganda, the southern part of modern Uganda, and served as a page and later major-domo in the court of King Mwanga II. As part of the king’s effort to resist foreign colonization, the king insisted that Christian converts abandon their new faith, and executed many Anglicans and Catholics between 1885 and 1887, many of whom were officials in the royal court or otherwise very close to him, including Lwanga.

Martyrdom[edit]

The persecution started in 1885. After a massacre of Anglican missionaries, which included Bishop James Hannington, the leader of the Catholic community, Joseph Mukasa – who was then major-domo of the court, as well as a lay catechist—reproached the king for the killings, against which he had counseled him. Mwanga had Mukasa beheaded and arrested all of his followers. This took place on November 15th. The king then ordered that Lwanga, who was chief page at that time, take up Mukasa’s duties. That same day, Lwanga sought baptism as a Catholic by a missionary priest.

On May 25, 1886, Mwanga ordered a general assembly of the court while they were settled at Munyonyo, where he charged two of the pages, whom he then condemned to death. The following morning, Lwanga secretly baptized those of his charges who were still only catechumens. Later that day, the king called a court assembly in which he interrogated all present to see if any would renounce Christianity. Led by Lwanga, the royal pages declared their fidelity to their religion, upon which the king ordered them bound and condemned them to death, directing that they be marched to the traditional place of execution. Two of the prisoners were executed on the march there.

When preparations were completed and the day had come for the execution on June 3rd, Lwanga was separated from the others by the Guardian of the Sacred Flame for private execution, in keeping with custom . As he was being burnt, Charles said to the Guardian, “It is as if you are pouring water on me. Please repent and become a Christian like me.”

Twelve Catholic boys and men and nine Anglicans were then burnt alive (another Catholic, Mbaga Tuzinde, was speared to death for refusing to renounce Christianity, and his body was thrown into the furnace to be burned along with those of Lwanga and the others[3]). The ire of the king was particularly inflamed against the Christians was because they refused to accede to demands to participate in sexual acts with him.[4] Charles Lwanga, in particular, had protected the pages from King Mwanga’s sexual advances.[5] The executions were also motivated by Mwanga’s broader efforts to avoid foreign threats to his power. According to Assa Okoth, Mwanga’s overriding preoccupation was for the “integrity of his kingdom,” and perceived that men such as Lwanga were working with foreigners in “poisoning the very roots of his kingdom”. Not to have taken any action could have led to suggestions that he was a weak sovereign.[6]

Source: Wikipdeia

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8 posted on 09/03/2014 10:25:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: webheart

You don’t need period to be woman either!


9 posted on 09/03/2014 11:27:04 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: lee martell

the catholic elementary school I went to changed names too. By the time my younger brother and sister went it was no longer Fr. Bertrand but St. Augustine


10 posted on 09/03/2014 11:49:24 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: PghBaldy

I had to think about that for, hmmm about five seconds before the flickering light went on...lol!


11 posted on 09/04/2014 12:01:10 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: BenLurkin

There is indeed a St. Charles. In fact, I live in IL in a suburb of Chicago, and not that far away is the town of St. Charles, and even closer is a fairly major road, St. Charles. Google catholic St. Chsrles.


12 posted on 09/04/2014 12:56:51 AM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: flaglady47; MinuteGal

Chsrles = Charles above. Typo.

P.S., my Catholic Dad’s first name was Charles.


13 posted on 09/04/2014 12:58:40 AM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: BenLurkin; MinuteGal

A snippet from Catholic Online:

“Charles was the son of Count Gilbert Borromeo and Margaret Medici, sister of Pope Pius IV. He was born at the family castle of Arona on Lake Maggiore, Italy on October 2. He received the clerical tonsure when he was twelve and was sent to the Benedictine abbey of SS. Gratian and Felinus at Arona for his education.

In 1559 his uncle was elected Pope Pius IV and the following year, named him his Secretary of State and created him a cardinal and administrator of the see of Milan. He served as Pius’ legate on numerous diplomatic missions and in 1562, was instrumental in having Pius reconvene the Council of Trent, which had been suspended in 1552. Charles played a leading role in guiding and in fashioning the decrees of the third and last group of sessions. He refused the headship of the Borromeo family on the death of Count Frederick Borromeo, was ordained a priest in 1563, and was consecrated bishop of Milan the same year. Before being allowed to take possession of his see, he oversaw the catechism, missal, and breviary called for by the Council of Trent. When he finally did arrive at Trent (which had been without a resident bishop for eighty years) in 1556, he instituted radical reforms despite great opposition, with such effectiveness that it became a model see. He put into effect, measures to improve the morals and manners of the clergy and laity, raised the effectiveness of the diocesan operation, established seminaries for the education of the clergy, founded a Confraternity of Christian Doctrine for the religious instruction of children and encouraged the Jesuits in his see. He increased the systems to the poor and the needy, was most generous in his help to the English college at Douai, and during his bishopric held eleven diocesan synods and six provincial councils. He founded a society of secular priests, Oblates of St. Ambrose (now Oblates of St. Charles) in 1578, and was active in preaching, resisting the inroads of protestantism, and bringing back lapsed Catholics to the Church. He encountered opposition from many sources in his efforts to reform people and institutions.

He died at Milan on the night of November 3-4, and was canonized in 1610. He was one of the towering figures of the Catholic Reformation, a patron of learning and the arts, and though he achieved a position of great power, he used it with humility, personal sanctity, and unselfishness to reform the Church, of the evils and abuses so prevalent among the clergy and the nobles of the times. His feast day is November 4th.”


14 posted on 09/04/2014 1:21:37 AM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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