While I wouldn't want to live among the Shiites, I don't think they would be much of a threat without the 12er rule.
Posted on 09/01/2014 7:58:00 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
I’m starting to think we should always default to “Who do the Christians back” in the mideast.
There's a better way to deal with terrorists: Empower the people to deal with it, with a bounty system. Put up a nice sum for the arrest and conviction of terrorists with stiff penalties for false arrest.
Bounties extirpated the passenger pigeon. They work, without reliance upon the institution of a police state.
Yep
Listening to it, by the time they get round to discussing everything and putting it through committee the terrorists will have done the damage.....
Just enact laws and get on with it,strip passports, arrests the known fighters, jail them, none of this pussyfoot discussion.
Talk is cheap and weak. That’s all law abiding men do these days - talk.
When heads start to roll, for real, in the UK and here too, then one will know that there are men serious about destroying widespread, everyday accepted evil.
Don’t hold your breath. Anyone who stands up with real action will be labeled racist and that crushes the law abiding citizen.
If one were to think I’m being over the top, how many in your face incidents does one have to see before they wake up.
In the last 2 weeks we have to world wide stories (one in MO, the other in UK) where the accusation of racism stops ANYONE in their tracks.
“to world wide stories”
meant two
I’ve noticed that the latest thing is to blame Assad for ISIS. This is probably in order to enable Obama to funnel more money to the radical Islamists (and ISIS groups) that were trying to overthrow Assad.
Make no mistake, Assad is not a nice guy and has certainly caused trouble over the years. However, he’s not a Sunni and not even a Shiite, but an Allawite, which is a syncretist sect regarded as heretical or even non-Islamic by Sunni Muslims, and looked at with suspicion by Shiites. About 10-12% of the Syrian population is Allawite.
So maintaining himself in power and protecting the Allawites meant that he constantly had to defend himself and the other Allawites from the Sunnis, and since the only form of government that seems to work in the ME is dictatorship, that wasn’t a very pretty thing. It did result, however, in protection for Christians and other minorities as well, as long as they weren’t trying to overthrow Assad.
Obama seems to want to throw in his lot with the most radical of Muslims, and of course, that would be the Sunnis, so Obama’s encouragement of the Sunni attacks on Assad (during the “Arab Spring”) is the only way in which one could even remotely say that Assad had anything to do with ISIS. In other words, Obama was building up the radical Sunni elements to attack Assad.
read under the video for summary - around 3-4 min mark he begins talking about the terrorist threat from ISIS
13:21 Minutes
David Cameron terror laws statement 9/1/2014 - FULL SPEECH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHw7M_WhPgA
Not really true. Both Sunnis and Shia have extremist wings, and it would be very difficult to determine which is "more extreme."
Conveniently, these radical wings hate each other, if possible, even more than they hate us.
Thanks for that good info.
God, for another Churchill.
That’s probably true. None of the Islamic sects can be called “peace loving,” simply because the tenets of Islam require conquest, but the Sunnis seem to have really taken it to heart...as have messianic Shiites such as the loonies in Iran.
I missed it but my father said it was pretty good, something about keeping the muzzies out and confiscating their passport at the border.
Neither the Shiites nor the Sunnis are friends of the “infidel,” shall we say, and both have caused trouble for us (although there are more Sunnis, so therefore, there’s more trouble).
They do hate each other, but I think it’s been a mistake for us to rely on this and to hope that by supporting one side or the other in their battles, we’ll be able to keep them off balance and fighting with each other. That was basically the reason we didn’t take out al-Sadr in Baghdad, even when he was leading Shiite attacks on us: the theory was that he would keep the Sunnis too busy fighting him to go after us. I thought it was a foolish strategy at the time and I still think it is delusional to hope to control the situation by supporting one or another of these groups and hoping that they all kill each other off in the end.
They won’t, and actually they seem rather strengthened by the conflict; it has certainly benefitted ISIS to be seen not only as succeeding against the infidel, but as having success in “purifying” Islam by attacking less populous sects. Something like 80-90% of the world’s Muslims are Sunnis, and the Caliphate is their project and has been since the beginning.
Leni
Panderer in Chief who says 'I know that you really, really want to get out of the EU, so if you vote for me at the next election, I will give you a chance to vote on that (Oh, and by the way, I have this lovely bridge to sell to you in London).'
I caught some of it. He sounded like a guy who woke up and figured out his house is on fire. He talked about emergency actions against foreign nationals holding dual citizenship, against immigrants from Islamic countries, increased border security - no more open gate policy with other EU countries.
All of that I actually heard. Why the sudden change? Could be politics (UKIP), but it could be the intel. That’s speculation.
Heard about ten minutes. One thing he did say is that all temporary measures would be shored up by primary legislation as close to immediately as possible. Rule of Law appears to still matter to the Brits.
What it says is Cameron and the Tory’s are now following UKIP, not leading.
Didn’t hear much. I wonder if this is due to the muslim child-rape epidemic in the UK, that was ignored for decades?
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