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WARNING ~~~~RIP OFF AT THE PUMPS
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Posted on 08/29/2014 11:40:23 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: Sequoyah101

“I wonder how they reconcile or if they reconcile purchases with sales vs. revenue?”

Black market — when their friends come in for gas, it is under the table and discounted. Uses up the gas shorted from the regulars (us).


41 posted on 08/29/2014 12:16:46 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: thackney

It’s people like you who bring up facts, evidence, or reality that spoil a good fear factor on a holiday weekend.

: )


42 posted on 08/29/2014 12:17:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: DManA

Of course I do. God Bless and have a great holiday weekend.


43 posted on 08/29/2014 12:19:02 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: MrB

I have dealt with several crooked Indian business owners looking to scam their insurance through bogus claims. Typically they will save up electrical appliance that break down and then claim that lightning struck the building and took them all out at once.


44 posted on 08/29/2014 12:19:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: thackney
Make sure you send it to all your friends.

That's the tip off. Although this email didn't do it, excessive exclamation marks are another.

45 posted on 08/29/2014 12:20:03 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: thackney

Give me your email and I’ll put you on my mailing list.


46 posted on 08/29/2014 12:20:32 PM PDT by DManA (in)
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To: Sequoyah101

Back in the day, a friend of mine worked as a gas station attendant. He’d fill up someone’s car and after they left, he’d drain what was still in the hose into a gas can. The next customer would unwittingly pay to refill the hose before any fuel reached his tank. When he left, my friend would re-drain the hose. At the end of the day, he’d have enough ‘hose gas’ to fill his own car for free.


47 posted on 08/29/2014 12:20:38 PM PDT by Sparklite
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To: Oatka

They did at least use the strategically placed all CAPS words, to make sure you knew it was serious.


48 posted on 08/29/2014 12:21:23 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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In addition to the one-gallon can to check volume, I carry a calorimeter so I can make sure I’m getting the correct octane.
Don’t leave home without your calorimeter!


49 posted on 08/29/2014 12:21:54 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: VerySadAmerican

The thing is that typically volumetric flow meters for custody transfer are accurate to about 1%. The third decimal place on the pump is worthless for accuracy.


50 posted on 08/29/2014 12:23:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: DManA

Freepmail sent.


51 posted on 08/29/2014 12:24:14 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: IWONDR
there is some sort of caveat on a small label on gas pumps which may speak to this apparent discrepancy, but i cannot recall the wording oft hand.

Fill in the morning. There are net/gross volumes for fuel. Taxes are generally calculated on the gross gallons (which is what the fuel would be measured at at 60 degrees F, and sea level), then the net is figured on actuals. The difference can be up to 100 gallons on a 10,000 gallon load. But it averages out over time, due to seasonal fluctuations. More net in winter than gross, more gross in summer than net.

Used to work in the field, and it's been more than 10 years since, but IIRC, that's how it worked.

52 posted on 08/29/2014 12:29:12 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: FoxInSocks
They did, some 20 minutes later. .......Yeah, right.

Yup. It was at this point I called "BS".

No doubt there's some crooked gas station owners (my wife got her CC# stolen at one, right around the corner from our house). But this article doesn't pass the sniff test, either.

53 posted on 08/29/2014 12:29:36 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Sparklite
At the end of the day, he’d have enough ‘hose gas’ to fill his own car for free.

Learned that trick 25 years ago. Click off the handle, hit whatever you needed to to shut off the pump (now is setting the pump handle back in the cradle), then squeeze the handle again. Empties whatever was in the hose by gravity into your tank. Not much, but every bit counts.

54 posted on 08/29/2014 12:32:55 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Fill in the morning.

Because the underground tank goes through temperature swings day to night?

55 posted on 08/29/2014 12:33:53 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Yes, but since the tanks are underground, the temp doesn’t swing that much from night ‘til day, so it’s debatable if it’s worth the effort. I have also heard that water condenses in the underground tank and being lighter than gas, rides on top. That’s okay unless you fill up during or just after the tanker truck fills up the underground tank, stirring up the mixture and sending water to the pump.


56 posted on 08/29/2014 12:46:04 PM PDT by Sparklite
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To: Sparklite

At 6 feet deep, in most locations, it doesn’t swing much in temperature from summer to winter. Day to night, not at all. That was the point.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2008/08/save-on-gas-with-morning-fill-ups-don-t-bet-on-it/index.htm

Water is denser that gasoline and collects at the bottom. Draw-off sumps are used to pull that out from time to time. Pump fills are placed off the very bottom.

Very little air can enter the tank as gasoline has a vapor pressure higher than the ambient. Without the exchange of air, moisture via condensation really doesn’t have a pathway in.


57 posted on 08/29/2014 12:54:45 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Dick Bachert

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94d_1384926750

1 of every 3 Gas Stations in Houston TX Ripping off Drivers


58 posted on 08/29/2014 1:00:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Sequoyah101

It is no different than grocery stores placing banners for discounts, but then ripping off the customer at the checkout at a higher price.


59 posted on 08/29/2014 1:11:49 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Ummm...they usually rob you by rigging the pump to sell you 0.95 gallons, and call it 1.0 gallon.

Charging a higher price and displaying it on the dial is just stupid.

I track miles driven and gallons put in...and I can tell if a particular fill up didn’t get me good mileage. Its possible I was driving aggressively...but more likely I was cheated at the pump. And I avoid such pumps in the future.


60 posted on 08/29/2014 1:19:05 PM PDT by lacrew
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