[Responsibility2nd]

Conversation (more than a few times) at the R2 house....

Kids: We’re hungry. What’s for supper?

Mom: Who knows? That dishwasher is still full from last night as nobody put the clean dishes away. Supper isn’t happening till that’s done.

> > Kids will sulk and gripe. But dishes get put away.

[1rudeboy]

I don't disagree with any of your methods, but you are discussing a different topic. You are taking the opportunity to induce or punish behavior (I'm not implying anything negative). Here, in the cake example, we are discussing Pareto Efficiency.