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The 8 Best Lines From Ginsburg's Dissent on the Hobby Lobby Contraception Decision
Mother (F) Jones ^ | 6-30-2014 | Dana Liebelson

Posted on 06/30/2014 9:14:15 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

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To: Citizen Zed
Approving some religious claims while deeming others unworthy of accommodation could be 'perceived as favoring one religion over another,'

I happen to agree with this statement. The original problem is that Obama care was not constitutional to begin with and the court is going to have to bend like a pretzel to continue the logical farce it has created.

21 posted on 06/30/2014 9:26:50 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Citizen Zed
"Would the exemption…extend to employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (Jehovah's Witnesses); antidepressants (Scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain Muslims, Jews, and Hindus); and vaccinations[?]".

How rad is that?

22 posted on 06/30/2014 9:29:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Here's a LOL-icious joke about women." - "That's not funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"!")
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To: Citizen Zed

If I’m working for a Company that is owned by a Seventh Day Adventist and they decide not to cover Blood Transfusions through their Health Insurance Coverage, I have to make some choices.

1. Don’t take the Job.
2. Get my own Health Insurance.
3. Get supplemental Insurance to cover Blood Transfusions.
4. Pay out of pocket if I require Blood Transfusions.

BTW, I have had to have multiple Blood Transfusions in the last three months because my Leukemia has resurfaced, so I know of what I speak.


23 posted on 06/30/2014 9:31:14 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: Citizen Zed
Actually - Best Lines...

Crazy Ginsberg. Crying "Havoc".

 

She continued: "Persuaded that Congress enacted the (Religious Freedom Restoration Act) to serve a far less radical purpose, and mindful of the havoc the Court's judgment can introduce, I dissent."

http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/ginsburg-radical-hobby-lobby-ruling-may-create-havoc-20140630

24 posted on 06/30/2014 9:32:08 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Notice the assumption is that HHS is empowered by the constitution to regulate/promote/demand abortion “services.”

I, and anyone with even rudimentary knowledge of the constitution must deny the premise, and absent the premise, none of Ginsberg’s conclusions can hold.


25 posted on 06/30/2014 9:32:11 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Oops, make that Jehovah Witnesses. Me bad....


26 posted on 06/30/2014 9:32:19 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses...)
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To: Citizen Zed
She forgot the part about "We the People... secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..."

I think there is one bridging phrase to the Declaration of Independence that is in the Constitution, which can be seen as a link to "unalienable rights."

Preamble

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Note the use of the phrase "Blessings of Liberty." They didn't say "liberty," they said "blessings of liberty." They also capitalized Blessings and Liberty. Why?

In the Declaration of Independence, the Founders said:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Note the use of capitalization for Life, Liberty, and Happiness. This is common when writing about gifts from God. Also note that these refer to the rights endowed by the Creator, which would be blessings. By this language, is it possible that Founders meant the Constitution to establish a government that secured the blessing of the unalienable right to Liberty?

Therefore, when they spoke of "securing the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity," wouldn't those referred to as "our posterity" be the unborn children who were also "blessed" with the right to Liberty, and the other unalienable rights in the Declaration of Independence?

How can the Founders believe that they were securing Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness for our unborn future if they were also writing abortion into the Constitution?

-PJ

27 posted on 06/30/2014 9:33:21 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Citizen Zed
"Would the exemption...extend to employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (Jehovah’s Witnesses); antidepressants (Scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain Muslims, Jews, and Hindus); and vaccinations[?]...Not much help there for the lower courts bound by today’s decision."

Why shouldn't it? Of course it won't because the court will write its decision so narrowly as to cover only the two companies before it. So look for more cases covering more exceptions.

28 posted on 06/30/2014 9:33:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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"The exemption sought by Hobby Lobby and Conestoga would...deny legions of women who do not hold their employers’ beliefs access to contraceptive coverage."

Ah. Notice she doesn't say they will be denied the right to contraception. Just contraception coverage.

How much does a year of "contraception" cost as opposed to contraception coverage?

Stupid woman. Who put her on The Supreme Court?

29 posted on 06/30/2014 9:34:25 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: MrB
Ignorant or lying?

Bit of both probably.

30 posted on 06/30/2014 9:34:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Employers are entitled to not offer healthcare benefits at all, so they’re certainly entitled to place any restrictions or limits upon what they are or are not willing to offer, regardless of motivation. Employers can decline to offer it, just as a prospective employee is entitled to decline an offer of employment, should such restrictions or limitations be problematic for them, due to their own religious beliefs or motivations. It’s exchanging labor for compensation. Compensation can take many forms.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 9:34:56 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: wac3rd
If a Republican wins in November of '16, she'll retire the next day and Harry's senate will ram through a leftist replacment......bet your bottom dollar.

Ditto if the senate goes Republican.

32 posted on 06/30/2014 9:36:36 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: allendale

We can only hope she hangs until there is Republican President.

33 posted on 06/30/2014 9:38:28 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Citizen Zed
The Court ruled for liberty. That is what our Constitution guarantees. No women will be denied contraceptives from this ruling. Any women can buy a whole bottle everyday of the week. Just means that someone else does not have to pay for it for her.......
34 posted on 06/30/2014 9:39:38 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Citizen Zed; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

35 posted on 06/30/2014 9:40:12 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Citizen Zed
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix
--Ginsberg
36 posted on 06/30/2014 9:40:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: RightGeek

Who is the round-faced blonde woman in a man’s suit on the far right of that photo? She’s even wearing a rep tie, lol.


37 posted on 06/30/2014 9:40:32 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Citizen Zed
"The exemption sought by Hobby Lobby and Conestoga would...deny legions of women who do not hold their employers’ beliefs access to contraceptive coverage."

This begs the question.....Does Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg actually believe this tripe? Does a gynecologist require permission from an employer to prescribe contraception?

38 posted on 06/30/2014 9:42:45 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Get your own insurance. Or if we adopt free enterprise rather than cartels, blood transfusions may well be affordable without insurance. Socialism creates scarcity which results in high prices, and then the clamor for more socialism - as if relief can be had by consuming more of the poison.


39 posted on 06/30/2014 9:43:20 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: liberalh8ter

I think when Flute was making all the noise, someone reported that you get get pills at WalMart for $9 a month.


40 posted on 06/30/2014 9:44:07 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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