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1 posted on 06/08/2014 8:26:27 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Incredibly misleading headline. Sounds like he killed his own father.


2 posted on 06/08/2014 8:37:44 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Morgana

He was 55 and a father? Wow. So descriptive.


4 posted on 06/08/2014 8:41:30 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Morgana

This MIGHT be manslaughter, at most. And it seems like he may be able to make a good case for self-defense. He’s got a ton of witnesses on his side.

I’m thinking the dead guy must have been dead drunk. Why would you start messing with a whole group of people like that? A church group!

Well, he got dead for his troubles, so let that be a lesson.


5 posted on 06/08/2014 8:42:25 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Morgana
So, a vacationing church group stops at a roadside place and this huge, probably drunk bastard approaches them and tells them he is going to "f" their women, and then assaults several people. He is asked repeatedly to stop, but he tells them he is still going to "F" with them all, and continues to assault members of the group.

Finally, after five are assaulted, the youth pastor grabs him around the waist and they both fall to the ground where the big brute hits his head. He stumbles away and goes unconscious.

Months later, he dies and they are charging the youth pastor with murder?

There are plenty of witnesses...but the moment of their falling to the ground is not on the surveillance video.

I hope this pastor prevails and sues the living daylights out of the prosecutors, the town, etc., etc.

From the reading, and the testimony of the people who were there...this is a travesty.

6 posted on 06/08/2014 8:43:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Morgana

M4L


11 posted on 06/08/2014 9:17:11 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Morgana
Group members said they were in the parking lot when Ellingson approached, threatened them and assaulted them.

If this is true it may well not be a crime at all.The defense should be checking the dead guy's entire background.Presumably a toxicology screen was done on the dead guy and possibly the accused as well.Background (of both) and toxicology (of both) would be of great interest to me.Depending on what credible evidence the defense might present I think that I,as a juror,could go with "justifiable self defense".

14 posted on 06/08/2014 10:21:30 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Morgana

Although I certainly could be wrong the first thing that came to mind when I saw his photo was “steroids”.Anyone else?


15 posted on 06/08/2014 10:25:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Morgana

Why does the phrase “Ministry trip in Las Vegas” sound as if the guy was trying to sell air conditioners in h*ll?


18 posted on 06/08/2014 10:46:11 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Morgana

I find it hard to have a charitable opinion of the DA’s motives.


20 posted on 06/08/2014 11:17:20 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Morgana

If it happened in Las Vegas then WHY are we aware of it?!
There goes the tourism campaign theme!!

How bout a new motto: “What happens in Las Vegas will be judged by the King of Kings!”


24 posted on 06/08/2014 12:36:24 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Morgana

Umm ..apparently, what happens in Vegas doesn’t always stay in Vegas.

Word of this incident may reach even as far as Heaven (and Hell).


26 posted on 06/08/2014 12:59:45 PM PDT by moovova
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