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Vet Allegedly Beaten To Death At VA Hospital
Opposing Views ^ | May 25, 2014 | Sarah Fruchtnicht

Posted on 05/27/2014 6:24:26 PM PDT by Altariel

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To: Altariel

If true, this is murder. Where is the DA on this?


61 posted on 05/27/2014 10:47:45 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: jocon307

Just don’t let it get out that I posted a kitteh picture.

I have a rep to maintain, you know. :)


62 posted on 05/27/2014 10:48:16 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: All

How sad is this. This could happen to any of us, and imo, it will happen more often when Obama”care” is in full affect. You WILL comply, or else.


63 posted on 05/27/2014 10:50:05 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Altariel

where the VA Police amish? when was the last time they were trained in elderly abuse?


64 posted on 05/27/2014 10:52:03 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Vermont Lt

Yes. Missing information. I hope there’s recorded video surveillance.


65 posted on 05/27/2014 11:12:25 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (Mind your atomic bonds.)
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To: All

Maybe it’s a hospital rule that a patient can’t leave w/needle in his arm, but if the patient refuses, it can’t be lawful that they use excessive force like this and kidnap, so to speak, a patient. Here’s another excerpt w/link, which might shed more light on this subject:

“..She claims the VA police brutalized her husband without any reasonable suspicion that there was “criminality afoot” or that he had committed a crime.
She seeks damages and punitive damages for wrongful death, assault and battery, false imprisonment, ..”

excerpt http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/05/25/68182.htm

They forcibly held him there, and then beat him and caused his death.


66 posted on 05/28/2014 12:04:35 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Steely Tom

Let’s wait for the IG report....


67 posted on 05/28/2014 2:49:14 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: Altariel

Animals...


68 posted on 05/28/2014 2:55:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: defconw

If you get caught it will be very bad. My concealed carry trainer is ex-military and worked for the VA. He quit because of all the terrible protocols.

You cannot have you weapon on the property, including the parking lot. Even if you have, for example, a Leatherman tool, it will be taken and a ticket issued.

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m simply notifying you of the federal law. This supersedes your state’s law.


69 posted on 05/28/2014 3:25:12 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
Federal law superseding state law is exactly why we are in this big freaking mess.

I know your are trying to help, but I got this.

70 posted on 05/28/2014 5:07:27 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Vermont Lt

Elsewhere in the article, they are referred to as “hospital police”.

Increasingly, the Just-us system has been turning a blind eye when police officers take it upon themselves to retaliate when an individual does something they view as “disrespecting” them.

When you have a Just-us system which will ignore, downplay-—or even encourage-—thuggish behavior, you get more thuggish behavior.


71 posted on 05/28/2014 5:13:03 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: gasport

Thought the lawyer’s name and location might help you find it.


72 posted on 05/28/2014 5:28:24 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Altariel; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; ..
JBT Ping list

Turns out VA security are actual LEOs not mere security guards.
At the VA, we'll treat you just like a King!

73 posted on 05/28/2014 6:27:56 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: null and void

I’m not sure which bothers me more, the brutal death of a veteran at the hands of police on the grounds of a VA hospital charged with his care or the fact that it has taken 3 years for this story to surface.


74 posted on 05/28/2014 7:16:34 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: TADSLOS

At least it didn’t end up buried forever.


75 posted on 05/28/2014 7:17:41 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: TADSLOS

How many more such stories are still buried?


76 posted on 05/28/2014 7:43:36 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

But what did he do to dis the guards? The story just doesn’t make any sense.


77 posted on 05/28/2014 10:05:20 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Failure to immediately comply with orders.

As we have repeatedly seen on Free republic, if immediate compliance isn’t achieved, retaliation follows.


78 posted on 05/28/2014 11:48:15 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: goodwithagun

It’s illegal if they catch you with it.

If it gets to that point, it’s already un-pretty.


79 posted on 05/28/2014 2:22:45 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: defconw

I had a fight with my local county courthouse. I filed suit for them making me leave my gun in the care. as a result of the settlement, the court officers (in my county) will “check” your weapon while you’re in the building and return it to you as you leave.


80 posted on 05/28/2014 2:24:57 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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