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To: varyouga

Great, one of those discussions, if you think they aren’t weird, and want to compare them favorably to Western civilization, then at least you won’t be suffering as man slips into darkness, as the concepts of freedom and individuality and helping your fellow man, and science for all, die out from the colonization of the West.

I guess I insulted your Cannabis.


15 posted on 05/13/2014 7:04:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
The concepts you describe were absent for the majority in the West for most of history. Individual freedom in any civilization was non existent for thousands of years until the USA. It was an anomoly even among Western men. It remains to this very day for most of the west when you look under the false veneer of freedom.

Why? Freedom only truly thrives on the Frontier and sparsely populated areas (like the entire USA once was). And only because the elite can not project power there.

Rule by he corrupt elite is 100% inevitable once society becomes densely populated and structured. The same has always been true for East, West, North and South.

You didn't insult anything. I just don't think there is any logic to the “cannabis civilization” theory that only you seem to see and post repeatedly. By all means, please explain and prove me wrong. All you are saying is “those people are weird” which is subjective and not logic. Heck, individuals from the same family can seem “weird” to each other. All it means is that people are different.

Also remember that it is the elite that control the direction and put a uniform face on a people. When you are judging any people as a whole, you are really only judging their elite. The individuality and differences of each nation's elite have far more influence on a society than the 5-10% of serfs that are regularly intoxicated.

17 posted on 05/13/2014 7:56:26 PM PDT by varyouga
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