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A slightly updated version of the birtherreport article.
1 posted on 03/31/2014 10:55:40 AM PDT by ethical
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To: ethical

Updated Dead Pool file.

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


2 posted on 03/31/2014 11:05:21 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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I makes perfect sense that this woman was afraid. What doesn’t make sense is how she died. If it was from a heart attack, the autopsy would show it. IMO, if it was a hit job, the pilot would have been in on it!


6 posted on 03/31/2014 11:12:10 AM PDT by gr8eman (But thermodynamics is just a social construct, created by the ruling white power structure)
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To: LucyT; null and void; WildHighlander57; maggief

FYI


7 posted on 03/31/2014 11:14:34 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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cardiac arrhythmia

had one last month - passed out for 4 min - pissed myself & scared the hell out of my wife.....if I get a choice on how I die, this is it - I just went to sleep - no pain - just light headedness for about 30 seconds -

That said - anything connected to this regime is suspect & the secrecy raises more red flags

8 posted on 03/31/2014 11:15:56 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (por que no musica?)
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‘The brother of state Health Director Loretta Fuddy said his sister had no heart problems or pre-existing conditions that would have contributed to her death following a December plane crash off Molo­kai. “She was a healthy lady,”


Yeah, sorry, all one has to do is see a photo of her to know that she was significantly obese, and therefore not healthy and a prime risk for heart failure at her age.


9 posted on 03/31/2014 11:16:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ethical

IBTNFAP


11 posted on 03/31/2014 11:19:25 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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..............As of March 29, 2014 no one knows why the plane’s engine failed.......................

Must’a had one of them there GM ignition switches with the pilot’s beer can opener swinging from it!


14 posted on 03/31/2014 11:34:12 AM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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Logically, it doesnt make sense. If your’e going to kill her, there are much easier ways than taking out a whole plane. Second, this supposed plot would involve the plane crashing, and one of the survivors killing her. if someone on the plane was in on the plot, why would they consent to being on a crashed plane with the chance of getting killed themselves?

Sorry, but sometimes it just is what it is.


15 posted on 03/31/2014 11:37:46 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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Bkmk


16 posted on 03/31/2014 11:43:28 AM PDT by BigIsleGal (Wake Me Up When the Stupid Wears Off)
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What was immediately creepy about this crash and her singular death is that those up on the details of the alleged Obama forgeries and the fact the Fuddy might have been a primary player in those forgeries had been grimly predicting that she’d be the next mysterious death of people who were in positions to know “too much” about Obama’s background and life style(s).


17 posted on 03/31/2014 11:52:01 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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America never learned t why Ron Brown had a neat round hole in skull either.


18 posted on 03/31/2014 11:55:54 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Dr. Harle meets an accidental death in the near future. Gotta make sure those loose ends don’t cause trouble.


24 posted on 03/31/2014 12:58:15 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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Problems with this report:
It is not possible to diagnose death by “cardiac arrhythmia”. It is something that can only be measured in a live person and there is no evidence of it after death. If someone had a medical history of cardiac arrhythmia it could be a good guess but a guess none the less.
That's absolute crap. Cardiac arrthymia has been able to be measured post-mortem for decades now, especially if it involves ventricular fibrillation. Only 6% of sudden cardiac deaths are unable to be explained, and advances in molecular biology and the use of post-mortem cardiac MRIs are taking care of that problem.
Loretta’s brother, Lewis P. Fuddy Jr., says that his sister was healthy, that she had no heart problems and that she was not a stressed or fearful person. He said that she was a very calm person and had to be given her job. His personal knowledge of his own sister directly controverts the medical examiner’s conclusion.
I'll take the medical examiner's professional opinion over what some brother thinks. I'm a raging stressball. My siblings and parents think I'm the calmest person in the world because I internalize all of it. They would be surprised by the heart medication I take.
*‘Autopsy report says Loretta Fuddy was “markedly afraid” after plane crash’.
This could actually be determined by the level of adrenaline and types and amounts of enzymes present in the body after death. Secondly, being a calm person with no known heart problems doesn't prevent the onset of SADS. See several young athletes who have died of that problem.
ocean conditions included relatively calm five-foot waves
Five foot waves are relatively calm? Has this person every been floating in the ocean in five foot waves? They're nuts if they think it's 'calm'!
. This is an autopsy report? Does this sound like a systematic external and internal examination of a dead body to determine if any abnormalities are present and are the cause of death? Where are the words that actually tell us the condition of her body and health? Why are the emotional, speculative words pushed to the forefront but the technical, factual descriptions are kept hidden? And why is this autopsy report filled with emotion and speculation in the first place?
Because it's not an autopsy report? It's a summary of an autopsy report, done by a journalist who wants good copy. It has no official bearing whatsoever.
The AP did not share a copy of the report which was said to be heavily redacted
Correct. They are forbidden by law to do so. You have to request it yourself.
is important to note that attorney Orly Taitz made a public records request for the autopsy report on December 18, 2013 and has never received a copy....Why did the AP get a copy but not Taitz? It is a public record subject to Hawaii’s Unified Information Practices Act Statue 92F. I requested one myself but seriously doubt it will be forthcoming . Is it only released to people who will beat the drum that Loretta’s death was caused by fear & hyperventilation?
No, it's because the autopsy report is not released just on request to anybody. Per their own website for the Honolulu Medical Examiner: There is a five dollar ($5.00) processing fee. Please enclose a check for the amount made payable to Department of the Medical Examiner. A copy of the autopsy report will be mailed to you when it is completed. Please understand that, occasionally, final reports may take as much as six (6) to eight (8) weeks to be completed. I'm betting that neither Orly nor you paid the five bucks.
As of March 29, 2014 no one knows why the plane’s engine failed. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has yet to determine the cause of the crash so how can the Medical Examiner or the Maui Police Department rule Fuddy’s death “accidental”?
Becuase they have found no evidence that it's intentional. That's what you do when don't find intentional evidence of murder.
However, I would wager in this case that most Medical Examiners would have gone with, “manner of death undetermined”.
And you'd be wrong, because you don't know what you're talking about.
1. Does this autopsy report, what little we’ve seen of it, sound like an autopsy report?
It is impossible for me to say, primarily because the "little we've seen of it" is not enough to base an opinion on one way or the other. I'd have to see the actual autopsy report, not some summary a report jibed up.
2. Does the “markedly afraid” portrayal of Loretta Fuddy jive with the original eye witness accounts and the video?
Depends on the chemicals and enzymes present in Loretta Fuddy at death, as fear is not something always detectable by the eye.
3. Is the designation of death, by cardiac arrhythmia due to a fearful, un-calm, hyperventilating demeanor, supported by the description that Lewis Fuddy gives of his sister Loretta?
Depending on the biological factors, yes or no. Hearsay by a brother don't mean squat.

Shoddy reasoning. Needs a lot more medical and scientific info involved and not just pure speculation.
35 posted on 04/01/2014 12:36:08 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: ethical; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ...

ping


44 posted on 04/01/2014 3:27:46 PM PDT by bitt (If Obama is really worried about “the children”, he should be bombing planned parenthood.)
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“She wasn’t having a cow about it or anything,” said Hollstein.


108 posted on 04/03/2014 11:31:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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bookmark


259 posted on 04/04/2014 9:36:40 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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This was predicted in the novel “Admit the Horse”.


450 posted on 04/04/2014 7:18:25 PM PDT by King Kong McCoy ("Admit the Horse" by P.G. ABELES)
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Thanks for the ping. I haven’t been following the discussions lately, so it was very helpful.

I gather that one of our more beloved Freeper/Birthers is under fire for promoting a ‘nutty’ theory. It’s safe to assume, then, that the Mal-Valers are under fire for their psychotic theory, correct? After all, there is at least claimed evidence of frogmen; of Malcolm X as Obama’s father, of Valerie Sarruf as his mother, and of the nonexistence of his half brother, David Ndesandjo, there is NOTHING.

Jack Cashill having adeptly and devastatingly disposed of the ‘Malcolm X as father’ idea, let’s have a look at where the ‘David never existed’ claim stands.

According to Mal-Valers:

David’s brother Mark posts a photo of David on the Net, & this means David never existed.

Mark posts a photo of the same child-David-~three yrs older, posing with Mark, and this means David never existed.

Ruth Ndesandjo consistently affirms that she had a son named David Opiyo Ndesandjo, Mark’s full brother, and this means David never existed.

The Ndesandjos’ neighbors, in extensive interviews, affirm David’s existence, and this means he never existed.

Sally Jacobs, who conducted most of the interviews, affirms David’s existence, and this means he never existed.

David Maraniss, famed for his exhaustive research techniques, affirms David’s existence, and this means David never existed.

The largest newspaper in David’s hometown affirms his life and death, and this means he never existed.

The second largest newspaper in David’s hometown affirms his life and death, and this means David never existed.

Several genealogy sites list David as Mark’s younger brother, and this means David never existed.

No person, not a single one, who actually knew the Ndesandjos has ever claimed Mark never existed. In fact, there is no record of anyone, other than the Mal-Valers, making this claim.

So which is more believable? The frogmen, that at least a couple of people claim see, or David’s nonexistence, which flies in the face of ALL countervailing evidence? [For the record, I don’t believe in the frogmen. However, it is a fact that more evidence, such as it is, has been put forth to argue for their existence than has been put forth in support of the claim that David Opiyo Ndesandjo never existed.

So, which is the nuttier theory?

[And for the record, Seize, of course you never claimed to be an Obot. I don’t know why people are allowed to smear others this way. It’s not conducive to maintaining a fully functional, cohesive conservative community, nor does it serve any good purpose. It’s just a smear, pure and simple.]


462 posted on 04/05/2014 6:56:48 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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Nothing to see here people ... move along ... move along!😅
570 posted on 04/05/2014 11:16:38 PM PDT by galtman (America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.)
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I’m trying to find out if Hawaii requires autopsies to be videotaped. Not having much luck with that, but I did find at http://openjurist.org/800/f2d/1463/kealohapauole-v-shimoda that an autopsy was videotaped in a case where the body was partially-decayed and the subject of a murder investigation. So it’s reasonable to think that autopsies are videotaped at least when there is suspected murder.

It’s important to remember that the NTSB was required to treat the crash site as a crime scene because there was a death involved, and they were responsible to see to it that an autopsy was conducted. I would presume that would include the autopsy being conducted in accord with protocols for a criminal investigation. Which would involve a videotape of the autopsy.

What diagnostic tests did the medical examiner do? Are samples retained, photographs taken, and videotape of the autopsy under seal currently?

Is the body available for re-examination if a murder trial commences?

These are questions that the Maui County Police Chief should be asked.


628 posted on 04/07/2014 5:21:48 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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