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To: Sherman Logan

pit was stolen 115 years ago...there are statutes of limitations


19 posted on 03/04/2014 11:10:02 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Yes it was. So let the law play out.

Statute of Limitations, BTW, refers to criminal liability, not transfer of property rights. I believe that even if I hide my ill-gotten gains till after the SoL runs out, I still don’t have a legal right to the property I stole.

The relevant law here is probably that regarding “treasure trove,” which goes in the common law all the way back to pre-Norman times in England. Under common law the sovereign owned the rights to ALL treasure trove in the land.

Sovereign rights transferred to each state at independence, so in some states common law still applies. Most have, however, modified common law by statute. Various states assign property rights in treasure trove to the finder, the landowner, the state, the county, or the township. Or split it up among these various entities in different ways.

No idea how CA law applies specifically, or whether federal law trumps if the coins were originally federal property, which is likely.


41 posted on 03/04/2014 11:21:41 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Vaquero

Yes, on the crime. But stolen property is stolen and it belongs to the original owner.

Example: Art work stolen during WWII. Still being returned to the rightful owner after 70 years.

But I never would have told anyone I had it.


44 posted on 03/04/2014 11:22:43 AM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vaquero

[ there are statutes of limitations ]

Only for crimes concerning the pitiful little sheep citizens, for FedGov, the only statue of limitations is the end of time itself...


49 posted on 03/04/2014 11:24:14 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Vaquero

Not with the new era of big brother. They take what they want.


81 posted on 03/04/2014 11:45:44 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Vaquero

Not with the new era of big brother. They take what they want.


90 posted on 03/04/2014 11:49:45 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Vaquero
"it was stolen 115 years ago...there are statutes of limitations..

I'll bet some insurance co. will end up with the whole thing...

121 posted on 03/04/2014 1:29:02 PM PST by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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To: Vaquero

Not for the federal goverment.

These people should have kept up on current events better. There are several instances where people have found uncirculated coins that the feds confiscated.

Let this be a lesson to people to shoot shovel and shut up. Melt it down if you find gold. If you see an endangered bird on your land kill it burn it and bury the shes.


125 posted on 03/04/2014 1:59:16 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Vaquero
pit was stolen 115 years ago...there are statutes of limitations

The statute of limitations on recovering stolen property doesn't start to run until the owner knows who has them. So the statute of limitations won't apply here. But the Government will have the burden of proving that these are the same coins stolen from the Mint, which won't be easy.

139 posted on 03/04/2014 5:05:24 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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