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10 day survival pack for your vehicle for just $25
backwoodshome ^ | By Jeffrey Yago

Posted on 02/28/2014 8:40:58 AM PST by virgil283

"It seems like every winter there are news stories of people getting stranded for weeks in bad weather while driving through the many remote areas of our country....I have written many articles about how to prepare your home for a power outage or national emergency, but today I want to address how to be prepared for an emergency when traveling in your car...

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(Excerpt) Read more at backwoodshome.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Miscellaneous; Reference
KEYWORDS: carpack; preppers; survival; survivalpack; vehicle; vehiclepack
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"1. Warmth, of course, is a major concern in cold climate and snow emergencies..2.Once you've ensured you and your family will be warm during a car emergency situation, you need to ensure you'll have enough food and drinking water..." [Jeff Yago is a licensed professional engineer and certified energy manager with more than 30 years of experience in the energy conservation field. He has extensive solar photovoltaic and emergency preparedness experience, and has authored numerous articles and texts. His website is www.dtisolar.com.} excellent list at site of food and supplies...
1 posted on 02/28/2014 8:40:59 AM PST by virgil283
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 02/28/2014 8:41:59 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: virgil283
Just be ready virgil283 to hear from the Scoffers. A few weeks ago when I suggest a much small version and ask if that was to much trouble I was heard from a number of FReepers who couldn't believe I carried what I did. Seems even here on FR there are people who rather stand stranded, hungry, cold and maybe sick or hurt than and wait for FEMA or the National Guard to come along with a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for thier boo-boo rather than take steps to take care of themselves.
3 posted on 02/28/2014 8:51:56 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: virgil283

Don’t forget the pre-cooked bacon:)


4 posted on 02/28/2014 8:53:23 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: virgil283

bttt...


5 posted on 02/28/2014 8:55:22 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: virgil283

When I lived out in the Midwest, stories of people being stuck in drifts in their vehicle for a week or more were not uncommon.


6 posted on 02/28/2014 8:58:38 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Add a Mossburg Persuader with 200 rounds of buckshot to protect yourself and stash.


7 posted on 02/28/2014 9:04:11 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Kartographer

Don’t forget a modified kit when you travel by plane.


8 posted on 02/28/2014 9:06:42 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Mears

bfl


9 posted on 02/28/2014 9:08:32 AM PST by Mears
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To: virgil283

Good article. Thanks!


10 posted on 02/28/2014 9:14:43 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Kartographer

Are those Knorr packs he mentions in the article easy to prepare? I would also think it might easier to add a couple of bottles of water. While it wouldn’t last 10 days, at least you wouldn’t need to worry about finding a water supply immediately. Even melting snow would still be a little rough mentally, at least for me.


11 posted on 02/28/2014 9:18:39 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Kartographer
"Just be ready to hear from the Scoffers"... yep, sad but true.....[Yet there are more people that take these things and put together a small kit like this but they don't post here. I read articles here for a long time before I commented.]

Buy thing you are going to eat anyway, like peanuts and jerky. Trail-mix goes soft right away, I think its because of the dried fruit - so experiment. I like the Cream of Chicken Cup-o-Soup for example....It doesn't take long to put a few thing in the car and later add to it...

12 posted on 02/28/2014 9:23:18 AM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: Kartographer

First I am in full support of the Boy Scout motto.
I disagree with a couple of the author’s suggestions tho. I would never advocate using a can of Sterno inside a car. If the can gets knocked over, accidents do happen you know, you will stay warm. For about an hour. Enamel cups may have their uses, but drinking a hot beverage from one is not one of the uses. You may well need your first aid kit for your burned lips. Oh yeah, don’t forget about the two eight pound ice cubes in the trunk.


13 posted on 02/28/2014 9:25:43 AM PST by Rannug
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To: Kartographer

BUMP for later...


14 posted on 02/28/2014 9:31:19 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: FReepers
Make FR GREEN!


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15 posted on 02/28/2014 9:41:05 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Patriotic1
"Are those Knorr packs he mentions in the article easy to prepare?".....I believe he is refering to the 'Add boiling water and wait 5 minutes' products that Knorr makes. I have not found thoes exact Knorr items in my grocery. Does that help ?
16 posted on 02/28/2014 9:47:44 AM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: Kartographer

I have everything I need in my 30 day pack except food.

The pack is always in my trunk.

However, while I don’t really care about food for emergencies and have gone three days without it, at various times, on one of my little trips, it occurs to me that others who may be in my car aren’t programmed for that.

So my trunk isn’t further taken over I think I’ll toss what I need under the spare tire.

I’m guessing packets of tuna and chicken are good, easy to store and require an idiot to just pull from one side to open.

I’ll also include some other meals that you find in packages from Idaho Brand or whatever.

Top Ramen is delicious...to me and I suppose to the beggar “Well, what is your choice?”

I’ll even include a bunch of those no sodium chicken/beef broth packets.

Some of the people I know have blood sugar problems and I think it wise to include some gatorade and sugar of some sort.

I can even store flavor packets of Crystal Light for the water.

Hmmm....

I think I can put together 10 days for less than $25 bucks and you get at least one meal a day out of the thing for 500 calories.

Ain’t much but, beats listening to a bunch-O-whiners complaining about something I don’t see as a problem.

Then again, I haven’t been more than three days without food before.

Last time I did it I promptly walked into a steakhouse and spent a couple hours enjoying the steak and reading.

Left a good tip so the waiter wouldn’t be pissed about me taking a table so long....

Thanks for the article....


17 posted on 02/28/2014 9:52:12 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: virgil283

I disagree on the jerky/dehydrated/AddWater foods for trunk storage. Why store dry foods when you can store canned chili, ready-to-eat canned soup, and other foods that also at least partially serve your need for water? If you’re not going to carry it, foods with water are usually a better option, at least based on my tastes and preferences.


18 posted on 02/28/2014 9:58:20 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kartographer

Bookmarked.


19 posted on 02/28/2014 10:00:27 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Kartographer

Yeah, that is really short sighted thinking on their part.

I wish I could tell all the stories I’ve thanked God I had my backpack in my car and found myself to have just the thing needed for the situation I was in.

Heck, last week my sports therapist water massage bed broke.

So he turned it over and started to take it apart. The engine that runs the waterbed massager is very heavy and unweildy.

To top it off he needed the engine to stay where it was so it wouldn’t crack one pipe and he needed a particularly small phillips head to finish with .

Just so happens I have a Wave Leatherman which had that tool.

I also had 500 feet of 550 paracord in my backpack, all my climbing gear and 6 Nite Ize carabiners.

Using the paracord and two Nite Ize carabiners I made a simple pulley system that would allow us to hold the engine in place and raise it or lower it wherever required with ease.

I am healing from my third shoulder operation and really couldn’t help with the engine, so having a nice pulley system that would easily cleat off without fancy knots made the work easy....

He finished the repair in about an hour and gave me a three free sessions of Sports Therapy.

Awesome!

Except the part where I cut off 25 feet of paracord.

But, that’s why I carry it.

And I’ll carry food for my passengers so I can shut them up while I work out the problem of being stranded....


20 posted on 02/28/2014 10:02:44 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Rannug
Oh yeah, don’t forget about the two eight pound ice cubes in the trunk.

You don't actually see that addressed very often in these advice columns, but in winter conditions that gallon of water you're carrying becomes a block of ice and can rupture the container, which is a real problem if it then melts and floods your trunk. I speak from experience. Use good containers and allow for expansion.

21 posted on 02/28/2014 10:02:59 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Pollster1
"I disagree on the jerky/dehydrated/Add-Water foods for trunk storage."... you make a good point, so I'll point out the author's plan was a kit that could fit in a small cooler that could easily be carried.[plus boiling water is easier than heating a can].

In my area water is easily available so you only need a container and a micron filter but desert/snow areas would be different....

22 posted on 02/28/2014 10:09:36 AM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: virgil283; Kartographer
Jeff Yago is a licensed professional engineer...

I dunno, gotta watch out for those engineer types.




Thanks for posting!

23 posted on 02/28/2014 10:18:04 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
When I lived out in the Midwest, stories of people being stuck in drifts in their vehicle for a week or more were not uncommon.

I've lived in the midwest my entire life and NEVER heard of anyone being stuck in their car in a snowdrift for a week.

24 posted on 02/28/2014 10:20:40 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I agree with you.

Even back in the blizzard of 78 there were guys on snowmobiles and Nat Guard 6x6 trucks out soon afterwards rescuing anybody who was trapped.


25 posted on 02/28/2014 10:22:42 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: virgil283

Bookmark.


26 posted on 02/28/2014 10:37:53 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: virgil283
Yet there are more people that take these things and put together a small kit like this but they don't post here. I read articles here for a long time before I commented.

That would be me....

27 posted on 02/28/2014 10:40:05 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Billthedrill

I keep my water containers in an appropriately sized ice chest, it helps keep them from freezing, and it contains the water if they do a freeze/burst/thaw cycle.

People in super cold climates like Minnesota, have to assume that in their case, the water will freeze no matter what, and they need to allow for the containers to swell without bursting, as you pointed out.


28 posted on 02/28/2014 11:03:02 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: virgil283
Yes. I've seen those donated at the St Vincent de Paul food pantry at my church (I put away the food) and never realized that they were that simple to cook.

I usually don't eat a lot of 'just add water' packaged foods, but I will pick up a couple at the store today. I can donate them every 6-8 months then.

Now I have to go at my ramen noodles for lunch!

29 posted on 02/28/2014 11:14:30 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Vendome

There are those of us who get headaches if I don’t eat on a regular basis. My mood changes, too, and not for the better. It took someone else to figure out the reasons for my mood changes.


30 posted on 02/28/2014 11:16:56 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: virgil283; Pollster1

In a real survival situation, you don’t need to heat the can but can eat it cold. I speak from experience - I was sick at a hotel once with no room service AND no microwave. I went to the drugstore, bought a can of chicken noodle soup and ate it cold. It was a little tough at first to choke down, but it helped me feel a little better.


31 posted on 02/28/2014 11:22:29 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: virgil283; Kartographer; greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; All
A critique of the “Food Items” and “Other Items” list:

My professionally packed backpack that stays in the trunk of my car provides food bars for three days, water packages for three days and all other equipment one might need in and out of the car. I have posted the list of items in that backpack before. It contains all the items (and many more) this author deems as “Other Items”, with the exception of paper/plastic plates. I'm going to add those to the pack or trunk and here's why:

I was not thrilled with eating food bars but I hadn't found dry food items that would pack in the backpack and give decent nourishment. I will get some of the Knorr “Sides” of which he spoke. That is what he is talking about - dry packages of “Knorr Sides” that come in a plastic package. The seasoning is in the package so these “Sides” will taste fairly well. I'll pick up some and try some of them at home but I'm sure they will be tasty enough in an emergency. This is cheap food.

You will need hot water to activate these packages. Finally, a person, the author, who understands all you need is a can of heat like “Safe Heat” sold at Sams or “Sterno” sold most everywhere. He left off the Sterno Stove but one is stability for the can and Walmart usually has them in camping supplies or Academy has them and Amazon surely does. I have four or five Sterno Stoves. Not sure how many now since I gave one or two stoves and cans of canned heat to a few people for Christmas. This little stove gives you a surface on which to put your pot to heat water or soup or whatever.

Those cans of canned heat, both Safe Heat and Sterno are well sealed and aren't coming open easily. I have cases of both kinds still wrapped in plastic under my roofed deck which naturally is outside - it is hot under that roof in Texas summer. They have been there over six years. I have some stored in my laundry room and some under a bathroom sink downstairs as that bathroom is the safe room in case of a tornado which we do get in Texas.

I want to dispel a myth - someone told me some time ago that the liquid in the can would evaporate - no, they don't. I just walked out there and cut open the plastic, took out a can and shook it - total liquid in there. I slipped the information sheet out of that case and here is what it says about Safe Heat:
Hottest blue/white flame.
No rubber cap to lose.
Widest wick means broader flame.
Will not evaporate.
Replaces old fashion gelled fuel.
Our exclusive screw cap style allows the proper air to fuel ratio.
Can remains cool to the touch.
Snuff with cap and store for later use.

When power goes out, think easy to cook. No need to fire up the barbecue grill, just open a can of canned heat and put into a Sterno stove and cook a meal in the house. Two stoves and two cans going at the same time lets you cook a meal and heat water for a drink. If you need three cans open and three Sterno stoves to cook more food, no problem. I have enough Safe Heat and Sterno to cook two meals a day for one year - right in my house. I use these every time a hurricane comes and power goes out. You won't have the smell of food outside as you will with outdoor cooking.

What kind of pot to heat the water? Put any smallish pot you have in the trunk. I do have small camping pots with the long handle that folds so you can open up the handle and be a decent distance from the fire if it is an open fire. Using the Safe Heat or Sterno, however, is a small flame so a long handle is not necessary. I'll put one of the camping small pots in the trunk.

I'll put one can of canned heat that has never been opened, wrapped in paper towels and sealed in two plastic bags in the trunk along with the backpack, and one Sterno Stove. I have opened my trunk in Texas hot weather and it's not nearly as hot in there as it is outside or in the cabin part of the car. That trunk is a separate unit from the interior of the car. If your trunk is open to the interior of the car where heat builds up due to car windows, it would be hotter. As a precaution, I wouldn't put a can in the body of the car due to the heat generated by a car sitting in the sun.

I will also add a small bottle of instant coffee because I would die without it. :o) I have both paper plates and metal plates and metal cups so some of those will go in there.

He spoke of toilet paper in the Other Item section. Buy a package of Wet Wipes which is a small package compared to toilet paper and works better than toilet paper anyway to clean your body.

32 posted on 02/28/2014 11:28:22 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Patriotic1

I’ve eaten cold food from a can several times, and that is my primary plan (and it’s not THAT bad). I also have several options to cook if my car gets stranded, but food temperature is the least of my worries - getting the liquid and the calories inside my body are at the top of my list.


33 posted on 02/28/2014 11:30:48 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: virgil283
Preferred tool of SOCom.

http://www.amazon.com/Flash-Personal-Cooking-System-Carbon/dp/B002N18PHO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1393615903&sr=8-2&keywords=boil+stove

34 posted on 02/28/2014 11:32:02 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Kartographer

I wonder if anyone sells fully stocked kits like this. If not, it might be a pretty good business opportunity. Just like those companies who sell fully stocked school supply backpacks just prior to the start of a school year.


35 posted on 02/28/2014 11:33:52 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: virgil283
Bttt.

5.56mm

36 posted on 02/28/2014 11:59:31 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Pollster1
food temperature is the least of my worries - getting the liquid and the calories inside my body are at the top of my list.

Agreed. Back during Blue Law days, you knew to pack a can opener and canned foods with the liquid already in them when on a trip. I can't ever foresee being stranded in a snow drift in the middle of Texas but would be more concerned with foods exploding and dry mixes turning to goo in the middle of our 110 degree summers. I'll pass on the "add water" foods and sterno inside the car. One size does not fit all.

37 posted on 02/28/2014 12:29:49 PM PST by bgill
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To: ansel12
I keep my water containers in an appropriately sized ice chest...

A BTT for an excellent idea. I do think I'm going to do just that.

38 posted on 02/28/2014 12:31:53 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Patriotic1

Just buy some tuna packages or canned tuna, and keep it in the car, and a can or two of pork and beans, every two years replace it, and take the old ones back to your pantry, they will be fine, even in desert heat.

Things do keep a little cooler in the trunk, especially if kept wrapped up in your gear.


39 posted on 02/28/2014 12:48:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Patriotic1
Those Knorr packs are $1.00 at Walmart and are in mylar envelopes. You might want to invest in a water filter. I bought one at the LDS store for $16.00. It looks like a water bottle and filters 100 gallons.
40 posted on 02/28/2014 1:07:09 PM PST by goosie
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To: Billthedrill

There are many collapsible containers which will hold water (or wine;) and are good for the trunk of the car.


41 posted on 02/28/2014 1:17:03 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Pollster1
Why store dry foods when you can store canned chili, ready-to-eat canned soup, and other foods that also at least partially serve your need for water? If you’re not going to carry it, foods with water are usually a better option, at least based on my tastes and preferences.

Bingo. Having to boil water to eat in such an emergency is just silly. For some obscure reason, those talking about emergency foods in car or home almost universally talk about dehydrated stuff, possibly because of the weight. Simply not relevant in such a sitution.

if you could find enough dry twigs and sticks lying around to actually build a campfire each night, but this will be impossible in a blizzard or heavy rainstorm.

Entirely possible if you combine the twigs and such with one of these.

http://www.zzstove.com/sierra.html

42 posted on 02/28/2014 3:20:38 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Billthedrill
in winter conditions that gallon of water you're carrying becomes a block of ice and can rupture the container.

Quite true. So carry a few cases of bottled water instead. I freeze the 16 oz bottles all the time and haven't yet had one rupture.

43 posted on 02/28/2014 3:23:27 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I'll try that - I went down to 2-liter bottles and left some room for expansion but that seemed to pop the seal on the cap. Not disastrously (they're still standing straight up) but it could get messy.

Single digits for a week starting tonight. Three weeks to Spring. :-(

44 posted on 02/28/2014 3:27:57 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I live in FL and normally pack a lunch, which often gets left in the car, which gets HOT.

So I have a little ice chest and pop a 16 oz water bottle in the freezer the night before. Pack it with lunch and by time to eat it’s mostly melted. Cool sandwich and nice cold drink.


45 posted on 02/28/2014 3:31:34 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Squantos

Ax, gun, and knife.....


46 posted on 02/28/2014 4:38:29 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: S.O.S121.500

and charred cloth - - I’m a wusss.


47 posted on 02/28/2014 4:41:36 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: S.O.S121.500

A Kelly Kettle would be a luxury item....


48 posted on 02/28/2014 4:44:03 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Cold Heart
CMMG Tactical Bacon in a can. http://www.cmmginc.com/product_p/13401ab.htm
49 posted on 02/28/2014 5:08:58 PM PST by Redcitizen (When a zombie apocalypse starts, Chuck Norris doesn't try to survive. The zombies do.)
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To: Vendome

My grandkids crunch up the Top ramen in a plastic bag and add the seasoning and it like chips.


50 posted on 02/28/2014 7:12:44 PM PST by tiki
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