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1 posted on 01/27/2014 2:03:55 PM PST by Theoria
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Bammy don’t follow the rulz, why should anyone else?


2 posted on 01/27/2014 2:05:45 PM PST by Paladin2
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Sure. I would definitely pay $3 for a small bottle of water to keep it in a barrel. 😊
3 posted on 01/27/2014 2:06:34 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Popcorn Sutton would be proud.


4 posted on 01/27/2014 2:07:59 PM PST by rdl6989
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By what authority?

I mean I look at this and it seems to say that the federal government cannot legitimately do so:

AMENDMENT XXI
Section 1.
The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Where the 18th says:
AMENDMENT XVIII
Section 1.
After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.

Section 2.
The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Section 3.
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress.

7 posted on 01/27/2014 2:13:01 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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No matter how much society breaks down, booze will be a viable commodity for trade.

I remember watching a story about how a teenage Jack Daniel, apprentice at a distillery whose owner was drafted into the army, made a small fortune selling to both sides of the conflict.


8 posted on 01/27/2014 2:17:01 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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I thought it was illegal to manufacture moonshine to SELL (without the appropriate leech ... er, I mean ...government ... stamps). How do home beer brewers and winemakers get away with it?


9 posted on 01/27/2014 2:18:02 PM PST by IronJack
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The libertarian movement has been obsessed with legalizing this and fighting tobacco laws, for 40 years........ haven’t they?


12 posted on 01/27/2014 2:20:35 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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There was once a time long ago when I would have agreed moonshiners should be prosecuted for breaking the laws/avoiding the taxes.

No more, and never again. It is the principle.


16 posted on 01/27/2014 2:24:14 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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I’ve been looking into the possibilities of a multipurpose still and have been checking out these folks: http://www.milehidistilling.com/

They make a mighty fine calendar too ;’)


17 posted on 01/27/2014 2:24:15 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Making spirits at home with plans to drink it is against federal law.

Why is NPR ignoring that the federal government can only regulate intrastate activity when the states delegate appropriate powers to the feds, via the Constitution, to do so? Concerning alcoholic beverages, this is evidenced by the 18th Amendment which was later repealed by the 21st Amendment.

With the exception of the federal entities indicated in the Constitution's Clause 17 of Section 8 of Article I, note that the Supreme Court has officially clarifed related issues which reflect that Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate the issue addressed by this thread.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State (emphasis added), and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. (emphases added)” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden (emphasis added)." --United States v. Butler, 1936.

I suspect that a lot of state lawmakers who agree with the federal laws on this issue don't understand that the feds currently have no constitutional authority from the states to make laws concerning such things.

22 posted on 01/27/2014 2:31:24 PM PST by Amendment10
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Whiskey Rebellion started on this very ground where I sit, 1791.

And the Feds STILL haven’t won it.


24 posted on 01/27/2014 2:33:33 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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I don’t know the economics of home hootch. Can you personally drink enough to recoup the costs? Will it taste as good as Jack Daniels? What’s the market (legal or illegal) for home grown booze?


29 posted on 01/27/2014 2:42:13 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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But It's Still Illegal

The Constitution does not empower the Congress to legislate you. Is the criminal charge manufacturing alcohol or is the charge tax evasion?

I am probably late on this thread but perhaps someone can clear this up for me.

I believe that at one time an individual could manufacture up to 200 gallons of alcohol each year for their own family consumption without incurring a tax.

I have no other details. Does anyone know the facts?

34 posted on 01/27/2014 3:04:14 PM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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Made around 100 gallons back in ‘89. Came out 110 proof and cost about $1.50 per quart to produce. Drank it as fast as we made it. Sure glad livers regenerate.


39 posted on 01/27/2014 3:13:30 PM PST by Manic_Episode (F the Whigs)
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Ping me...


43 posted on 01/27/2014 3:39:46 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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Only with the right permits may a person make ethanol...

Flawed right there.

People don't make ethanol.

Ethanol is a byproduct of the yeast consuming the sugar.

Distillation only concentrates the ethanol produced by the yeast.

If I drink three 12-oz. beers, or have three 5-oz. glasses of wine or three 1-1/2-oz. shots of whiskey, in each case, I have consumed the exact same amount of alcohol.

The only difference is how much water is in each.

53 posted on 01/27/2014 4:09:21 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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It is easier to “un denature” some readily available versions of denatured alcohol than it is to ferment and distill it.

It still (no, not a pun) needs to be distilled, but you avoid the messy and expensive fermentation process, and the distillation goes much more quickly and cheaply because there is no water in the mixture.

A five gallon can of denatured alcohol can produce ten gallons of good vodka.

But man is it ever illegal......


55 posted on 01/27/2014 4:28:33 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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Only if you get caught.


57 posted on 01/27/2014 4:35:34 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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