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Hospital Cuts Pregnant Woman From Life Support, Killing Her Unborn Child
Life News ^ | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 01/27/2014 8:10:12 AM PST by Morgana

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To: driftdiver

Um, in whose mind, to whom are you addressing the last sentence of your post? What does the Texas law direct them (the medical personnel) to do under the circumstances presented to them?


101 posted on 01/27/2014 12:01:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

I have no idea what texas law says. From the article it appears it gives the spouse a significant amount of input though.


102 posted on 01/27/2014 12:03:29 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Perhaps the doctors made the wrong decision but we’ll never know
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we do know though that the husband made a wrong decision about his own child which he had put to death just because he could...

theres been a lot of talk of the need for “compassion” in these threads...

where was the compassion for the baby ???


103 posted on 01/27/2014 12:24:02 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
"... we do know though that the husband made a wrong decision ..." Actually, we don't know, and therein is the field for all this discussion. We have sides to the debate, filtered/arranged by legal arguments, medical arguments, and philosophical/religious arguments, and finally based upon social arguments.

The weight we give to any of these arguments is usually based upon our perspective, and Freerepublic is a pro-life website, by definition from the man whose site this is. we could make the assertion you've made if we had several nagging questions answered. Again, answering first the what before assigning motives or reasons for actions is important to finding the truth. Sadly, we are not going to be allowed to have sufficient data to even determine what happened and what was the set of initial circumstance.

104 posted on 01/27/2014 12:43:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: erkelly
The judge in this case was not applying the Ten Commandments.

He was applying the law of the sovereign state of Texas. And I've seen nothing to indicate he applied it improperly.

I mentioned to a previous poster that if one doesn't like what a law says, one should get busy and change that law.

Arguably the law of Texas should require that legally dead women be kept alive till their potentially viable children reach a stage of growth where they can be delivered with some chance of survival. And I might even agree with you. I'd have to study on the subject a lot more. But it appears that the law does not presently say that.

So when one starts dragging in irrelevancies such as the Ten Commandments, which are not part of Texas law, what is being proposed is that personal opinions be read into the law despite what that law actually says.

And I don't think a judge should read into the law his own opinions, or erkelly's, or Sherman Logan's, FTM. Judges doing so is the primary mechanism by which we got into our present mess.

In fact, I think a judge doing so is the greatest possible betrayal of the immense trust, authority and respect granted him by the American people. And that's true even when I agree with the results of the decision.

105 posted on 01/27/2014 1:13:07 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: driftdiver

I’m sure when(if) his wife said she didn’t want to be kept on life support, she didn’t consider the fact that she might be carrying a child when that time came. But it’s only a “deformed fetus” anyway, so who cares? Pass the chips, I can’t wait for what’s really important-Superbowl Sunday.


106 posted on 01/27/2014 2:00:19 PM PST by Bridesheadfan
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To: Tennessee Nana

IMO the chances of the baby being alive were pretty darn slim. I would hope the medical staff took that into consideration.


107 posted on 01/27/2014 2:04:25 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Bridesheadfan

Sorry to hear you are so focused on the superbowl over a tragedy like this.


108 posted on 01/27/2014 2:08:45 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MHGinTN

I mean about the baby..

Why didn’t he ask for his child to be examined ???


109 posted on 01/27/2014 2:52:47 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

How do you know he didn’t?


110 posted on 01/27/2014 3:08:12 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MHGinTN

“Actually, it appears I know a lot more about the issues than you do”

Exactly! That is why I was posing questions instead of making outlandish statements. ;-)


111 posted on 01/27/2014 3:12:30 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: driftdiver

Willful ignoramus.


112 posted on 01/27/2014 3:24:58 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: Bridesheadfan; driftdiver

Bridesheadfan wrote:But it’s only a “deformed fetus” anyway, so who cares? Pass the chips, I can’t wait for what’s really important-Superbowl Sunday.


The poor illiterate thing doesn’t even know you were being sarcastic. How sad is that? Bless his (or her) heart.


113 posted on 01/27/2014 3:29:33 PM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: angryoldfatman

Ugly fat troll


114 posted on 01/27/2014 3:59:22 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Ah, and therein is the seed of suspicion.


115 posted on 01/27/2014 5:21:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Morgana

UPDATE: Guess what?

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/354528/250/Pregnant-woman-taken-off-life-support-husband-speaks

“The family tells News 8 that Marlise Muñoz will be cremated. There are no plans for a public memorial or funeral service, because the family is concerned that protesters would show up.”

Cue the faux libertarian crowd to come in and parrot the family and mainstream media line. In 3... 2... 1...


116 posted on 01/28/2014 8:03:47 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: Morgana

Also note this to counter the “fetus too deformed to determine sex”:

http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news?fId=242326941&fPath=/news/local/&fDomain=10247

“Erick [the husband] told News 8 that he had requested doctors do a final sonogram because he wanted to know the sex of the unborn child. After learning it was a girl, Erick named her ‘Nicole,’ Marlise’s middle name.”


117 posted on 01/28/2014 8:09:41 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: Tennessee Nana

The husband did name the baby prior to his wife being removed from life support.


118 posted on 01/28/2014 8:15:11 AM PST by pnz1
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To: pnz1

According to the article I just linked, he named her just moments before. I guess that’s something. Not much, but something.


119 posted on 01/28/2014 8:30:19 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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To: pnz1

Yes he named HER Nicole...

must have been reading FR...

and he still calls HER an “it”

and he doesn’t knows know WHY he named her.. ???????

also both Nicole and HER mother are to be cremated...


120 posted on 01/28/2014 8:30:23 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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