Posted on 01/17/2014 9:12:59 AM PST by CedarDave
“well don’t be an idiot”
That’s good advice.
“a guy got shot for looking into a store window that has bicycles there precisely to be viewed through the store windows.”
Confused. I thought we were talking about the woman in the low-speed chase.
“Um.........No?”
No, that’s one reason they have them.
“Yet you are using authority as an excuse to not hold him to the standards that those “under his authority” are.”
Do we require police to obey speed limits when responding to a call or chasing a fleeing suspect? They must have a wider scope of authority or they would be unable to perform their duties.
I’m not saying they have unlimited authority, just as you are not saying they have no authority. We are just discussing where the line lies.
“yes they can, however they can’t shoot you just for not stopping.”
I’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that they can. They can certainly cause a suspect’s car to crash, and that can kill you just as dead as bullets.
“The reason society is such a mess is because we’ve lost our morals. Cops are shooting more people now.”
I have been told that cops used to shoot a lot more suspects for or five decades ago, then shootings dropped off significantly, and began to rise when women started playing cop.
“In the case of one who is running, IF it is a violent felon who is fleeing, AND is an immediate danger to others, THEN the shooting MIGHT be justified. Those circumstances do not seem to be the case in that video.”
Oh, I don’t know. The woman attempted to evade questioning, used her car as a weapon, then tried to drive off and endanger others. It also seems significant that the cop was correct about the suspect—there was a warrant for her arrest.
Is it possible that the cop ran her plates and learned about that warrant?
....Crickets....
>> “Yet you are using authority as an excuse to not hold him to the standards that those “under his authority” are.”
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> Do we require police to obey speed limits when responding to a call or chasing a fleeing suspect?
That’s not the question; the question is this: is he responsible for [the consequences of] violating the speed limit [if/when things “go wrong”]?
IOW, is he held responsible for using authority?
The answer, seemingly, is increasingly “no.”
sorry, appears i got a thread crossed.
i also’think it’s hard to regard these guys as genuine professionals when they are screaming multiple swears in commands they are shouting at you.
i think it’s an indication of the fundamental shift in how officers are taught to relate to non-officer citizens, and how formerly regarded unprofessional behavior has now become standard operating procedure for many officers without any negative repercussions.
imagine dealing with people giving formal business presentations and having that mouth. imagine dealing with a doctor using crass slang to talk about your body parts.
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