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To: huldah1776

I’m glad this guy is retired.

Our nation has survived by the long held belief that the military is apolitical and serve the civilian leadership of the country regardless of party.

Once the military becomes openly political the nation is truly lost.


7 posted on 12/30/2013 8:17:53 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe
Our nation has survived by the long held belief that the military is apolitical and serve the civilian leadership of the country regardless of party.

Sadly some think this means that they serve the government regardless of Constitutionality.

8 posted on 12/30/2013 8:23:58 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: montanajoe

It’s not about politics anymore. It’s the free loving people vs a cynical, narcissistic, tyranny. The military should be openly supporting the people.


15 posted on 12/30/2013 8:44:46 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: montanajoe; OneWingedShark
Our nation has survived by the long held belief that the military is apolitical and serve the civilian leadership of the country regardless of party.
Once the military becomes openly political the nation is truly lost.

As you note, “this guy” is retired military and, thus, there is no immediate question as to whether the military has become openly political.

But, you raise an interesting point. You may be aware of this portion of the oath taken by military officers: I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…

It seems important to note that the oath does not require officers to defend the U.S., but rather to defend the Constitution.

So the issue becomes: what if a particular political party or group of civilian leaders takes significant action that is clearly contrary to the Constitution?
Does that party or group not then become domestic enemies?
Does the “long held belief” include the view that the military is to be at all times, and in the face of all circumstances, apolitical?
Is the military to remain in their barracks while the party or group uses auxiliary forces to control the citizens in a fashion that achieves unconstitutional goals?

21 posted on 12/30/2013 9:15:02 PM PST by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." -from a guy who never had a real job and couldn't feed his family)
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To: montanajoe
I disagree ...

Being a patriot is of no particular "party" ... it just is, and the motivation to be patriotic has nothing to do with politics per se, rather, the defense of righteousness as a nation.

The oath is to defend and protect the Constitution from all enemies

22 posted on 12/30/2013 9:15:13 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: montanajoe
"Our nation has survived by the long held belief that the military is apolitical and serve the civilian leadership of the country regardless of party."

That America is long gone. IMO either the military steps in soon to restore constitutional government or - if too much time goes by and given the direction the services are headed - they will step in some years from now to uphold the rule of someone like obama.

31 posted on 12/30/2013 11:45:07 PM PST by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: montanajoe

Not to mention if he was being seriously truthful, he’d tell us when Osama really died, and it wasn’t in any raid recently.


39 posted on 12/31/2013 6:47:53 AM PST by Bulwyf
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