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We have yet to see the worst of ObamaCare
The New York Post ^ | 12/13/2013 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/15/2013 6:29:11 PM PST by Beave Meister

‘ObamaCare was sold on a trinity of lies.”

That ornate phrase, more suitable for the Book of Revelations or perhaps the next “Game of Thrones,” installment comes from my colleague Rich Lowry. But I like it.

Most people know the first deception in the triumvirate of deceit: “If you like your health insurance you can keep it, period.” The second leg in the tripod of deception was “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”

But the third plank in the triad of disinformation hasn’t gotten much attention: ObamaCare will save you, me and the country a lot of money. This lie took several forms. First, Obama promised on numerous occasions that the average family of four will save $2,500 a year in premiums. Where did that number come from? Three Harvard economists wrote a memo in 2007 in which they claimed that then-Sen. Obama’s health-care plan would reduce national health-care spending by $200 billion. Then, according to The New York Times, the authors “divided [$200 billion] by the country’s population, multiplied for a family of four, and rounded down slightly to a number that was easy to grasp: $2,500.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: aca; democrats; healthinsurance; jonahgoldberg; liberallies; liberals; lies; lyingliberalliars; obama; obamacare; obamacaredeductibles; obamacarelies; obamacarepremiums; obamaisabigfatliar; obamalies; thenewyorkpost
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This article could be laden with hyperbole, but based upon what is now known, it likely is true.

Our President owed us a duty of honest...a duty now breeched. Had this debacle been exposed last fall, we would now have different President.

1 posted on 12/15/2013 6:29:12 PM PST by Beave Meister
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2 posted on 12/15/2013 6:32:31 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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I truly believe this is true. Obamacare is going to get drastically worse next year. It would have been cheaper to put the ill-uninsured on Medicaid and bill them what they could afford


3 posted on 12/15/2013 6:33:38 PM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on

And I think they knew that. And I think they had no interest in that. Because healthcare is not the main point of Obamacare. Controlling the Middle Class is the point.


4 posted on 12/15/2013 6:48:21 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: babble-on

The crap will hit the fan next year when the notices go out to 50 million people that their employer health insurance will not be renewed.


5 posted on 12/15/2013 6:49:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: babble-on

Worse? Yep but all part of their ultimate plan. They WANT people ‘in the streets’. It is gonna get real bad in 2014.


6 posted on 12/15/2013 6:50:15 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: Beave Meister

0bama will act liked a caged animal from here on out. The worse this trainwreck gets, the more desperate the moves will be. And we got 3 more years of this.


7 posted on 12/15/2013 6:52:13 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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You’re right. 2014 is going to be ugly in many ways.


8 posted on 12/15/2013 6:52:49 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Beave Meister
The real tragedy is that we won't be able to see our Dr.s and will be denied proper treatment.

Then, "doctors" and "nurses" will be created by HHS & we will be herded into the Post Office annex for "healthcare"

The web-site travesty will turn out to be the best part of the nightmare. Millions will die unnecessarily and many more will suffer needlessly.

9 posted on 12/15/2013 6:54:26 PM PST by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT! : $70 TRILLION unfunded...)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Nothing that a swift declaration of martial law can’t make go away.


10 posted on 12/15/2013 6:55:50 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

0bama will act liked a caged animal from here on out. The worse this trainwreck gets, the more desperate the moves will be. And we got 3 more years of this.


That’s right. Obama will hunker down and double up on his efforts to wreck us. His Evil will shine through the façade for all to see. Unfortunately, most won’t recognize his evilness because discernment is foreign to them.


11 posted on 12/15/2013 6:55:56 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Eliminating the middle class is the aim. They want to recreate a class of elites and a class of poor who serve them.


12 posted on 12/15/2013 6:56:00 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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“Controlling the Middle Class is the point.”
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You mean, forming a Marxist/Leninist society/country.
It will, however, control all classes.


13 posted on 12/15/2013 6:56:06 PM PST by AlexW
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And it appears that the law has already “decreased” the number of uninsured from 40 million to over 50 million. Way to go ValJar!


14 posted on 12/15/2013 6:56:16 PM PST by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT! : $70 TRILLION unfunded...)
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To: Beave Meister
The chaos of Obamacare is just starting. After he beginning of next year vast numbers of Americans who think they signed up for coverage will find they are not covered by the screw ups from website. The next shoe to drop will be that the cost of the policies and especially the deductibles will soar. Later next year the employer sponsored plans will experience the same mess that individual plans did this year with dropped coverage, soaring costs and employers dropping coverage all together. In 2015 the "fines" will hit for anybody not having coverage despite coverage being almost impossible to get.

If the Obamacare monstrosity just keeps trundling along and isn't at least delayed if not killed, the US health care system will virtually destroyed by 2016. Of course the Democrats will propose a single payer government run system as the fix for this mess. I hope that the American voters will see first hand the mess Obama has created, but the GOP could still screw things up and if Hillary becomes POTUS US health care will resemble that in the former Soviet Union.

15 posted on 12/15/2013 7:05:52 PM PST by The Great RJ ( eating)
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We have yet to see the worst of ObamaCare

There are 3 parts to the dims strategy for the USA.....

My theory about the dims push for global warming is also a lie.....so

1. Reducing production of electricity and stopping oil drilling.

2. Implementing single player health care (with death panels)

3. Herding the population into high rise cities

will guarantee that their dream of killing off 25 million or so of the population becomes a reality when global COOLING kicks in.

16 posted on 12/15/2013 7:07:33 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: philetus
Nothing that a swift declaration of martial law can’t make go away.

I declare to make martial law go away.
17 posted on 12/15/2013 7:09:52 PM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: bobby.223

“Worse? Yep but all part of their ultimate plan. They WANT people ‘in the streets’. It is gonna get real bad in 2014.”

I wrestle with that sentiment myself. because I see how many America haters there are. but then I comeback to one question that I really can’t answer.
certainly, the very wealthy like buffet and Bloomberg, if they don’t actually run everything, by force of their wealth they certainly have enormous influence. then the question is, are they allowing the destruction of the lifestyle that for them is better than anything that any kings or queens throughout history could have even dreamed about?
that is a tough one for me.


18 posted on 12/15/2013 7:23:30 PM PST by willywill
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To: Beave Meister

when will anyone ever ask Stoobeliuiski any questions regarding the severe shortage of doctors?


19 posted on 12/15/2013 7:36:45 PM PST by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Beave Meister
"We have yet to see the worst of ObamaCare"

That's okay...when the worst happens, the limp-wristed, linguini-spined Pubbies will figure out how to bungle it, or let the 'Rats get away with it. The Obammunist could declare himself president for life, raid everyone's 401Ks, nuke Israel, outlaw Christianity, then get caught giving oral sex to Satan himself, and the Pubbies would let him get away with it.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

20 posted on 12/15/2013 7:48:57 PM PST by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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