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To: Altariel
Everyone should recognize that Kelly Thomas, Jared Loughner, James Holmes, and Adam Lanza should have been institutionalized long before the respective incidents were precipitated. Scores of people would still be alive if the liberal philosophy of letting these mentally unstable individuals roam at will had not been adhered to. And yet Nancy Pelosi maintained that veterans are the unstable and dangerous ones.
4 posted on 12/11/2013 10:34:25 AM PST by Temujinshordes
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To: Temujinshordes

“Everyone should recognize that Kelly Thomas, Jared Loughner, James Holmes, and Adam Lanza ....”

Everyone should recognize that lumping Kelly Thomas in with those killers is going to completely bias readers against whatever point you were trying to make.


9 posted on 12/11/2013 11:20:23 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Temujinshordes

You are correct. This Thomas fellow should never have been on the street.

As another poster pointed out, the OC Weekly is one of those free rags with lefties writing their articles. The mainstream press isn’t much better.

Thomas was in no way some sort of harmless poor soul. He was one of the scary mean homeless/mentally illl. I live in SoCal so I’ve heard local coverage And details for over a year now.

He fought these cops long and hard. Apparently early on in the fight he he landed a solid hard one in the face of one of the officers. I always figured that caused his predicament. I figure the cop stepped it up a bit and had less concern over hurting him after that.

Doesn’t mean I am saying he deserved to die.

I do not think the cops ever intended him to die.

It’s a shame all the way around.

I do not like the parents grandstanding. Why were they letting their son on the street like that? Because they could not control him, nor deal with his violence. So they think the cops will have no problem with him?

It is difficult in that 1) a dangerous person like this should not be on the streets. He was violent and committed crimes. He was breaking in to cars which is what cause this incident. The cops have to deal with him and that is not an easy task. 2) The general public should not need to be subjected to the presence of psychotic potentially violent men in public spaces.

The cops had to deal with him. He is a danger and usually these dangerous men are given freedom because they arent necessarily committing any crime at a given time. In this case he was committing crimes and fought the police when confronted he did not fight back, he instigated the fight.

There’s no good answer for what should happen. Personally I think the cops should not be convicted of a crime, but should no longer be police.

Do the parents have blame? Maybe. If they want to use this for soapboxing, then it is fair to blame them for then not keeping the general public from their son. They can’t have it both ways.


10 posted on 12/11/2013 11:25:26 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Temujinshordes

http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2013/12/03/00/56/777-1eKw7p.St.55.jpeg>

In this photo, we see Kelly Thomas sitting passively on the curb. Perfect time to arrest him, if arrest is what the officers wanted to do.  He was PASSIVE.
This was when he gets threatened by officer Ramos: “You see these fists? They're about to #uck you up.”
Is that the way a professional police officer talks to a non-violent suspect sitting on the ground with no weapons? No. That's the way an out-of-control psychopath talks. -so let's talk about who is really a menace to society here, an unarmed schizophrenic, or an armed psychopath with a badge.

40 posted on 12/13/2013 7:26:55 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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