[mmichaels1970]

but everybody seems to be ignoring the elephant in the room. Namely Florida State

I think there is a general consensus that FSU deserves to be where they are...hence no argument.

but FSU would destroy any one of them

I agree with you there. FSU should destroy any one of them. Shouldn't even be close.

Stranger things have happened though.

[Old Retired Army Guy]

A lot of people weren’t paying attention to FSU because they play in the ACC and that doesn’t attract the National attention that the SEC, Big 10 and Pac 12 get. Take it from me (A Big Bama fan) that FSU is for real. I watched most of their games as I did Bama’s games and I was convinced even before Bama lost that strange game to Auburn, that FSU would romp over Bama. They will easily beat OSU, Auburn or MO>