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CDC: More Than 20% of 14-Year-Old Boys Diagnosed With ADHD
Cybercast News Service ^ | November 25, 2013 - 5:52 PM | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 11/25/2013 7:52:11 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

When I was a kid little boys with ADHD were called “brats”. When they got older, they were called “bad boys”. And when they grew up they were called Alpha Males and warriors.


21 posted on 11/25/2013 8:48:07 PM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Schools get extra funding.

You're right, I forgot about that. I spent many years as an urban school teacher. Once a month, we had to fill out a form that asked questions like "This month, did you advise a student to seek professional help?"

The more "yeses" we answered, the more money the school got. No one even checked to see if our answers were true. Crazy.

22 posted on 11/25/2013 8:54:20 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Olog-hai

Hardly a “disorder” if 20% of the population has it......


23 posted on 11/25/2013 8:58:48 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Sivad
This is a very real affliction. My brother has it and my two sons have it. They were crashing and burning until we got help. We had complete neuro work ups, testing. It was clear they were not wired correctly. After treatment my struggling sons are now performing well in school, they feel good about themselves. They socially fit. When they are off the medication all the symptoms return. Kids without it do not react well to medication. Significant amount of kids that go untreated go on to abuse alcohol and drugs in an effort to self medicate. If you haven't lived with it is hard to believe just like alcoholism. Why can't they straighten up? Because they can't.
24 posted on 11/25/2013 9:02:50 PM PST by Blacksheep (There are no coincidences......)
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To: Olog-hai

Boys are different than girls? Who knew?

You can’t define down government workers forever. At some point they hit rock bottom and can’t go any further.


25 posted on 11/25/2013 9:14:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Olog-hai

>> Nothing like a government-defined mental disorder.

Yup.

>> What does that sound like?

The Obama Administration...


26 posted on 11/25/2013 9:15:44 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: detective

They are not gonna get my boys!

I’m teaching them to fight shout shoot wrestle hike swim bike run play football basketball golf tennis baseball hockey and MORE!

I’ve gas more than one liberal tell me I’m teaching my kids to be bullies

I laugh in their faces. My kids are nice nice nice especially to girls

One nazi type a fat slob woman who obviuosly had always cowed nen tried to give me sh$t at my own Y and I humiliated her completely

I said to her “ I talk back “. And I DO

( when I feel like it)

Oh by the way I have a girl, 13, who I gave boy training too

Rocks, sticks, dirt, sand , the beach etc

Love the fact that liberals really are just jealous and copy me

Hee hee


27 posted on 11/25/2013 9:17:45 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserve)
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To: Olog-hai

Why not have the article say 80 percent of boys do not have ADHD. Who cares about those boys who can’t seem to control themselves. They are the ones that typically end up our mass murderers.


28 posted on 11/25/2013 9:38:50 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Olog-hai

ADHD is BS; it’s boyhood. Eff the gov’t.


29 posted on 11/25/2013 9:52:59 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Olog-hai

Here’s a definition of ADHD for ya:

A socially created “disease” that can be attributed to: a)boys raised without fathers, b)hostility to masculinity, c)a proclivity to chemical “quick fixes,” d)a redefinition of bad behavior as disease.

I’m sure others can add other factors to the “etiology” of said “illness.”


30 posted on 11/25/2013 10:26:18 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: Olog-hai

My father cured our attention deficit with a leather belt. Although he’s gone, I still thank him for it everyday.


31 posted on 11/25/2013 10:33:13 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my health insurance policy?)
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To: Olog-hai

Put the kids to work. Make them play sports. For.the love of Pete these kids have energy to burn! Drugs not needed


32 posted on 11/25/2013 10:46:12 PM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: Olog-hai

More than 80% of teachers can’t cope.


33 posted on 11/26/2013 2:45:52 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: Blacksheep
This is a very real affliction. My brother has it and my two sons have it. They were crashing and burning until we got help. We had complete neuro work ups, testing. It was clear they were not wired correctly. After treatment my struggling sons are now performing well in school, they feel good about themselves. They socially fit. When they are off the medication all the symptoms return. Kids without it do not react well to medication. Significant amount of kids that go untreated go on to abuse alcohol and drugs in an effort to self medicate. If you haven't lived with it is hard to believe just like alcoholism. Why can't they straighten up? Because they can't.

I agree it is very real. I disagree with the percentages though. I think likely 90% of the ADD ADHD diagnoses are misdiagnosed and about 75% of those are a very real very similar disorder of which Ritalin can not help.

ADD ADHD and Ritalin were around before I was born in 1957. I was thought to have ADD ADHD as I had many of the symptoms especially lack of concentration and short attention span. I still have that issue.

The {Specialist} are missing and overlooking the key piece to the so called ADD ADHD epidemic. Do medical history work ups focusing on the childs Sinuses and Ears. Chronic sinus allergies and chronic ear infections can damaged the childs Inner Ear. A Damaged Inner Ear or the Cerebellar/Vestibular portion of the sensory processing system can and in most cases will give many ADD ADHD symptoms. However Ritalin can not help them and only makes it worse.

What I am talking about also effects such things as reading ability, eye-muscle coordination, walking, ability to understand/process given verbal commands, intolerance's in some cases to certain auditory or visual situations. It is also a leading cause of adult anxiety disorders. It can in rare cases in adult life lead to disability due to severe sensory processing issues. It will often be misdiagnosed as General Anxiety Disorder unless the doctors do a good work up. Been there, have that, and know what I'm talking about. I do not however have ADD ADHD LOL.

I'm not a doctor. But as a disabled Vestibular Patient I have looked real deep at this issue. 25 years ago very few doctors understood this. Today many Audiologist have heard of and can test for C.A.P.D. which stands for Central Auditory Processing Disorders. These are very real and can be hard to deal with. However the treatment generally is treating what is doing the damages to start with such as ear infections are allergies. The cost to schools? Simple classroom modifications such as placement in the front of the room and the teacher looking at the kid when talking. These kids even though they can hear read lips faster and can process that faster than their hearing.

An example is telling a boy Billy go take out the trash, feed the dog, and clean up your room. Billy may be watching TV or talking to someoene when you say it. Billy you think ignores you. No Billy may have heard you but it did not process in the brain. You repeat your orders and Billy says Huh? Then you begin to say it for a third time and in the middle of it Billy acts like he all of the sudden gets it. Billy says OK. Goes and takes out the trash and maybe feeds the dog. Likely one of the three commands he did not process. Billy isn't being a brat or deliberately ignoring you. Tell Bill to do these things one at a time instead. Vestibular patients have serious issues retaining in their short term memory verbal order or multitasking as it is called.

34 posted on 11/26/2013 3:50:33 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Olog-hai

The funny thing is that no one seems to care why it happens.


35 posted on 11/26/2013 3:55:14 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: cva66snipe

Ritalin helps kids in the same way that caffeine helps adults. As a matter of fact, when a kid forgets to take his Ritalin in the local schools, they give him Diet Mountain Dew.


36 posted on 11/26/2013 3:57:59 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: BenLurkin

“A gramme is better than a damn”


37 posted on 11/26/2013 4:08:59 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Leaning Right

The schools benefit from such diagnoses too, don’t they?


38 posted on 11/26/2013 4:12:50 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: vpintheak
Put the kids to work. Make them play sports. For.the love of Pete these kids have energy to burn! Drugs not needed

That's fine. Let them play sports that is a good way to watch for what I have posted in post 34. If a kid is playing baseball and having uncorrectable difficulty when trying to his a baseball it is not the kids fault. Watch for delayed swinging at the ball, ducking away from the ball as if afraid, or swinging at the ball too soon. Watch the kids behavioral responses as well. The kid will not ever be able to play baseball. The kid will need what is called Occupational Therapy which will focus on coordination issues. These things are being missed in doctors offices.

Look at the kids shoes. Is the kid wearing out shoes quickly by breaking the sides over? That points to balance issues. My parents bought me shoes once a month. I had two years of Occupational Therapy in 1970.

I have functional one eye vision. I have vision in both eyes but only one at a time can function. Because I got help I passed both my Navy entrance physical and later my Army NG physical. I also have an extensive history of sinus allergies to the extent shots are required. I do think a lot of kids have this. But I believe it is our technology advances in audio/visual entertainment which has brought it to an epidemic level. Forget the shrink till you take a kid to an audiologist and even an Occupational Therapist. Oh and the best part? No drugs needed.

39 posted on 11/26/2013 4:17:12 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Wow. I had a ct scan on my head this year and have structural problems with sinuses and ears which has caused chronic problems. I had no idea it could cause ADD like symptoms. That would explain so much! A steroid nasal spray has helped me more than anything thus far, it even seems to help my ears.


40 posted on 11/26/2013 4:27:39 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (:)
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